"Freedom" thread or something

Yeah, I'm not saying there isn't an impact but he made too big an issue of it surely.

^Good article. Do you imagine how many agents and cops and prison guards and other people will be left without a job to do if they ever legalized drugs? The drug war is quite a fantastic business both for cartels and for law enforcement agencies and their contractors.

The T wrote: ^Good article. Do you imagine how many agents and cops and prison guards and other people will be left without a job to do if they ever legalized drugs? The drug war is quite a fantastic business both for cartels and for law enforcement agencies and their contractors.

Although I think police departments have inflated budgets so I don't support this, we could keep all the law enforcement that we have. They could actually be put to productive use. Eliminating the drug war would just have such a drastic effect on crime from all angles that it's nothing but pure lunacy keeping policies trucking the way they are.

Yeah, and gotta be realistic. I've heard "legalize pot! It will end our national debt and we can have universal healthcare" I was like LOLWTF!?? You gotta be on some major drugs to think that.
But yeah, the drug war is a massive failure, it's almost comical. That article Pat posted is like the summation of it all.

And yeah, it would have such a big impact on crime and free up our prisons.
Also I wanna see WeedR'Us as a fortune 500 company


I think it just unrealistic and maybe a bad idea (sorry hardcore libertarians) to just make all drugs 100% legal, but certainly pot legal, all others decriminalized would be a huge help.


Edited by JJLehto - May 10 2013 at 21:49

Well thing is, one has to assume it would work like alcohol and ciggs  as in largely going to the states and local.
I guess the pot farms could be 100% owned and ran by the Feds but even then, I just dont think it would add up, especially the cost of universal healthcare, that's a hefty bill!

Still worth a try though!

Finnforest wrote: I suspect legalization is coming eventually (for pot) but have to admit that like everything else, they'll probably screw it up.  Somehow it'll end up costing us money instead of saving us money I also wonder about driving.  If they legalize weed, which stays in your system quite a while, they still will not allow you to be high while driving.  But how would they enforce that?  If you smoked yesterday, you're gonna be fine to drive today, and yet if you were pee tested 12-24 hours after torching up you'd test positive in their eyes, I would imagine.....dui?

Colorado and Washington are wrestling with these issues now.  Not sure how to resolve it.


Edited by Padraic - May 11 2013 at 08:31

Yeah but like I said while pot is kinda getting there and many already don't care, legalizing all seems a far cry away.
Decriminalization has worked in Portugal though far as I know

Padraic wrote: Finnforest wrote: I suspect legalization is coming eventually (for pot) but have to admit that like everything else, they'll probably screw it up.  Somehow it'll end up costing us money instead of saving us money I also wonder about driving.  If they legalize weed, which stays in your system quite a while, they still will not allow you to be high while driving.  But how would they enforce that?  If you smoked yesterday, you're gonna be fine to drive today, and yet if you were pee tested 12-24 hours after torching up you'd test positive in their eyes, I would imagine.....dui? Colorado and Washington are wrestling with these issues now.  Not sure how to resolve it.

You can deal with it as an aggravation of an existing offense rather than an offense in its own right like seat-belt law enforcement.

dr wu23 wrote: This might be of interest to all the political junkies here....Taibbi has been exposing these big 'cabals. and 'conspiracies'  for years now.   http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425     "Conspiracy theorists of the world, believers in the hidden hands of the Rothschilds and the Masons and the Illuminati, we skeptics owe you an apology. You were right. The players may be a little different, but your basic premise is correct: The world is a rigged game. We found this out in recent months, when a series of related corruption stories spilled out of the financial sector, suggesting the world's largest banks may be fixing the prices of, well, just about everything."

What is described in the article is more like cartels and, yes, cartels are powerful and have been known to manipulate prices.  This is why the free market only exists in economics textbooks.  Perfect conditions, unfortunately, have yet to be discovered by archeologists on Planet Earth. 


Edited by rogerthat - May 11 2013 at 23:45

I don't understand what this will accomplish.