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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 09:52
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Road Tapes Venue 1 is pretty awesome.
That does look pretty good.  I have some catching up to do!

Btw, I'm listening to this now and am being impressed by its accurate rendering of the Zappa style - and it's by Weird Al Yankovic to boot!  If you haven't heard this, prepare yourself for:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 10:12
Apostrophe Era Big smile  This guy made a bunch of Cd's !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 10:51
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Road Tapes Venue 1 is pretty awesome.
That does look pretty good.  I have some catching up to do!

Btw, I'm listening to this now and am being impressed by its accurate rendering of the Zappa style - and it's by Weird Al Yankovic to boot!  If you haven't heard this, prepare yourself for:




Yea Road Tapes is easily one of the best Zappa albums I've ever heard, posthumous or not.

That Weird Al song is VERRRRY Zappa haha.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 12:40
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Yea Road Tapes is easily one of the best Zappa albums I've ever heard, posthumous or not.

one of the best, you say?  I definitely need to look into this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 12:58
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

 
Yea Road Tapes is easily one of the best Zappa albums I've ever heard, posthumous or not.

one of the best, you say?  I definitely need to look into this.


If you enjoy the original Mothers of course, as I have been these last few months. I think it's better than related albums like YCDTOSA vol. 5 (disc 1), Ahead Of Their Time, Finer Moments, and Mystery Disc. Don't really want to compare it to any of the original studio/live albums from the 60s/early 70s, as they're a different beast, but it's just as good as BWS/WRMF.

I'm gonna have to listen to Road Tapes again myself tonight. I hope future installments are just as good (and cover lineups with little to no official release, like the 73 band with Jean-Luc Ponty for example).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 13:01
So here are the FZ albums I'm still missing. Part of me wants to get CPIII next, but another part of me is saying to get other albums first. What do you think?

56.    Civilization Phaze III
59.    Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa
63.    Everything Is Healing Nicely
64.    FZ:OZ
66.    Joe's XMASage
67.    Joe's Domage
68.    MOFO
74.    Joe's Menage
75.    Philly '76
76.    Lumpy Money
77.    Hammersmith Odeon
78.    Greasy Love Songs
80.    Carnegie Hall

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 13:02
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I didn't know it either.
 


As much as Evolver's review is good, he only gave it three stars. I'd be inclined to give it 4 myself. One day I'll have to review this album. There's a lot of new stuff on it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 13:11
I bought Lumpy Money recently and it's a small disappointment. Apart from the pleasure of listening to the suite without spoken voices, nothing really new here. I've never been a big fan of "We re only...".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 13:22
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

So here are the FZ albums I'm still missing. Part of me wants to get CPIII next, but another part of me is saying to get other albums first. What do you think?

56.    Civilization Phaze III
59.    Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa
63.    Everything Is Healing Nicely
64.    FZ:OZ
66.    Joe's XMASage
67.    Joe's Domage
68.    MOFO
74.    Joe's Menage
75.    Philly '76
76.    Lumpy Money
77.    Hammersmith Odeon
78.    Greasy Love Songs
80.    Carnegie Hall

My personal recommendation is to get CP III next, no question about it.  Though admittedly I haven't heard about half of those on the list.  But they all offer variations on music you pretty much already know.  CP III is entirely its own beast, and it's one of his best works IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 13:22
I am also interested in the Lumpy Gravy instrumental. How about that 25 minute song on the third disc? The project/object albums in general are probably going to be bought last as they're very expensive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 13:25
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

So here are the FZ albums I'm still missing. Part of me wants to get CPIII next, but another part of me is saying to get other albums first. What do you think?

56.    Civilization Phaze III
59.    Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa
63.    Everything Is Healing Nicely
64.    FZ:OZ
66.    Joe's XMASage
67.    Joe's Domage
68.    MOFO
74.    Joe's Menage
75.    Philly '76
76.    Lumpy Money
77.    Hammersmith Odeon
78.    Greasy Love Songs
80.    Carnegie Hall

My personal recommendation is to get CP III next, no question about it.  Though admittedly I haven't heard about half of those on the list.  But they all offer variations on music you pretty much already know.  CP III is entirely its own beast, and it's one of his best works IMO.


I forgot to mention 200 Motels, but I fear the second I order a $40 used copy on Amazon, the ZFT will announce the UMe reissue of it...

I was kind of thinking that too as far as CPIII goes. I'm thinking I'll order it with Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa and Everything Is Healing Nicely to save on shipping costs. I know EIHN has new material on it too.

Speaking of which, I also just ordered Greggary Peccary & Other Persuasions: Ensemble Modern on Amazon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 13:31
The 25 minute song is not very interesting. For me the problem is that lumpy and we're only it are mixed on the 3 Cds.
I would have preferred 2 separated discs and the third with the bonuses.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2013 at 12:06
Not a major Zappa fan. Only own the canon stuff. Thread great read. I guess i should plunk down for Lather/Leather whatever it's called and the Helsinki '74 YCDTOSA vol.2 set.
If i had a choice, should i get the new 2CD Lather or the old Ryko 3 CD version?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2013 at 12:12
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

So here are the FZ albums I'm still missing. Part of me wants to get CPIII next, but another part of me is saying to get other albums first. What do you think?

56.    Civilization Phaze III
59.    Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa
63.    Everything Is Healing Nicely
64.    FZ:OZ
66.    Joe's XMASage
67.    Joe's Domage
68.    MOFO
74.    Joe's Menage
75.    Philly '76
76.    Lumpy Money
77.    Hammersmith Odeon
78.    Greasy Love Songs
80.    Carnegie Hall

My personal recommendation is to get CP III next, no question about it.  Though admittedly I haven't heard about half of those on the list.  But they all offer variations on music you pretty much already know.  CP III is entirely its own beast, and it's one of his best works IMO.


I forgot to mention 200 Motels, but I fear the second I order a $40 used copy on Amazon, the ZFT will announce the UMe reissue of it...

I was kind of thinking that too as far as CPIII goes. I'm thinking I'll order it with Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa and Everything Is Healing Nicely to save on shipping costs. I know EIHN has new material on it too.

Speaking of which, I also just ordered Greggary Peccary & Other Persuasions: Ensemble Modern on Amazon.
You may be right there... it seems inevitable that 200 Motels and CPIII will see the light of day again someday, they have to.  I just think CP III is too good to have to wait for. LOL.  I haven't gotten EIHN yet, in fact I often forget it exists.  Maybe I'll grab that one when I place my order for Road Tapes soon.

That Ensemble Modern album is really good too, glad you got that one.  The biggest treat is hearing band versions of pieces previously only performed on the Synclavier - I think "Night School" is on there, as well as "Put a Motor in Yourself" (<< love love love that track).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2013 at 12:43
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

So here are the FZ albums I'm still missing. Part of me wants to get CPIII next, but another part of me is saying to get other albums first. What do you think?

56.    Civilization Phaze III
59.    Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa
63.    Everything Is Healing Nicely
64.    FZ:OZ
66.    Joe's XMASage
67.    Joe's Domage
68.    MOFO
74.    Joe's Menage
75.    Philly '76
76.    Lumpy Money
77.    Hammersmith Odeon
78.    Greasy Love Songs
80.    Carnegie Hall

My personal recommendation is to get CP III next, no question about it.  Though admittedly I haven't heard about half of those on the list.  But they all offer variations on music you pretty much already know.  CP III is entirely its own beast, and it's one of his best works IMO.


I forgot to mention 200 Motels, but I fear the second I order a $40 used copy on Amazon, the ZFT will announce the UMe reissue of it...

I was kind of thinking that too as far as CPIII goes. I'm thinking I'll order it with Frank Zappa Plays the Music of Frank Zappa and Everything Is Healing Nicely to save on shipping costs. I know EIHN has new material on it too.

Speaking of which, I also just ordered Greggary Peccary & Other Persuasions: Ensemble Modern on Amazon.
You may be right there... it seems inevitable that 200 Motels and CPIII will see the light of day again someday, they have to.  I just think CP III is too good to have to wait for. LOL.  I haven't gotten EIHN yet, in fact I often forget it exists.  Maybe I'll grab that one when I place my order for Road Tapes soon.

That Ensemble Modern album is really good too, glad you got that one.  The biggest treat is hearing band versions of pieces previously only performed on the Synclavier - I think "Night School" is on there, as well as "Put a Motor in Yourself" (<< love love love that track).


I don't think CPIII is going to be re-released on UMe, as it has always been available through the Zappa.com Barfko Swill store. Gail seriously hinted at a 200 Motels reissue last year though.

However, I just got Trance-Fusion, Joe's Corsage, and Electric Aunt Jemima in the mail, so it looks like another Zappa marathon today.Big smile

One I get the Ensemble Modern album, I'll order more Zappa albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2013 at 12:48
Originally posted by libertycaps libertycaps wrote:

Not a major Zappa fan. Only own the canon stuff. Thread great read. I guess i should plunk down for Lather/Leather whatever it's called and the Helsinki '74 YCDTOSA vol.2 set.
If i had a choice, should i get the new 2CD Lather or the old Ryko 3 CD version?


Yes, you need those 2 albums.

However, both the Ryko Lather and the new UMe Lather are both 3 CDs. The Ryko one has bonus tracks, and the UMe does not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2013 at 12:56
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by libertycaps libertycaps wrote:

Not a major Zappa fan. Only own the canon stuff. Thread great read. I guess i should plunk down for Lather/Leather whatever it's called and the Helsinki '74 YCDTOSA vol.2 set.
If i had a choice, should i get the new 2CD Lather or the old Ryko 3 CD version?


Yes, you need those 2 albums.

However, both the Ryko Lather and the new UMe Lather are both 3 CDs. The Ryko one has bonus tracks, and the UMe does not.

Ya, I would say that both those albums are "must have's" that you absolutely must have Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2013 at 12:58
For the first time, my orders from Barfko Swill disappointed me a little, as far as the packaging. Joe's Corsage has the corners chipped off, and the 'joints' on the spine are loose so the front panel comes off. Trance-Fusion has broken parts in the middle where the CD hole rests. I guess I can always get some replacement jewel cases, I have a couple other albums that need a new jewel case....
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