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ProgMetaller2112 
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 Posted: January 23 2013 at 23:15 |
 Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ I just did. |
hahaha very funny
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 24 2013 at 02:22 |
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What I don't understand is why so many people are voting for "Achilles" when this band did far more progressive things like "Kashmir" (a long track in 3/4 (6/4) featuring the Mellotron and the flanger effect). |
Who's laughing now? It's on page four.
How hard is it for a person to look through a five-page thread and find the thing he is looking for?
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chopper
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Posted: January 24 2013 at 07:13 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
What I don't understand is why so many people are voting for "Achilles" when this band did far more progressive things like "Kashmir" (a long track in 3/4 (6/4) featuring the Mellotron and the flanger effect). |
I'm not an expert on these things but I don't think Kashmir is in 3/4 or 6/4. It's certainly not in waltz time despite the odd timing of the riff.
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irrelevant
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Posted: January 24 2013 at 07:45 |
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6/4 over 4/4 in the verses.
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chopper
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Posted: January 24 2013 at 08:22 |
irrelevant wrote:
6/4 over 4/4 in the verses. |
Yes you're right, I was talking rubbish as usual.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: January 24 2013 at 08:32 |
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The most appealing to prog rock standards, for me, is Carouselambra.
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This night wounds time.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 24 2013 at 11:40 |
chopper wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
6/4 over 4/4 in the verses. |
Yes you're right, I was talking rubbish as usual. |
Looks like I got some of the theory to revisit.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - January 24 2013 at 11:41
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moshkito
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Posted: April 20 2013 at 16:34 |
SyrinxTemple wrote:
How in the world is Achilles Last Stand not on this list?
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Agreed ... and by definition definitly the one piece that is "progressive" ... and he can explain it to you really well in "It's Gonna Get Loud" ... I like LZ a lot, but I really think that stretching this to progressive is a bit scary ... although by the time we put the distinctions side by side, LZ will come off more progressive than half the bands we DID call progressive. I have fond memories of the age of bootlegs and some of these by this band! Their concerts were (generally) excellent.
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AEProgman
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Posted: April 20 2013 at 23:35 |
Achilles is the one...
No Quarter is next.
Friends of the Folk/Prog song off of III is worth a shout.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: April 20 2013 at 23:38 |
Then I guess I am alone on this one about Achilles. 
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tamijo
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Posted: April 21 2013 at 00:03 |
Heavy prog is the most Zeppilistic genre in prog 
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 21 2013 at 00:14 |
ole-the-first wrote:
The most appealing to prog rock standards, for me, is Carouselambra.
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I agree, by any standard actually, it is their most progressive number in the studio -
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dr wu23
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Posted: April 21 2013 at 20:57 |
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I always thought Song Remains the Same to be proggy......but No Quarter, Kashmir and Achilles also fit the bill for me.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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jude111
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Posted: April 26 2013 at 21:41 |
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The Rain Song, easy.
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I went with this. The live version on The Song Remains the Same is just sublime. It's one of those songs that I just *had* to learn how to play, note-for-note.
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jude111
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Posted: April 26 2013 at 21:50 |
awaken77 wrote:
Led Zeppelin is as progressive as Guns And Roses is
if any kind of long song is "progressive" , so "November Rain" is a prog-epic lol: |
Did Guns-n-Roses sing about elves and pixies? About magic runes writ in gold? About Mordor and the Hammer of the gods? Hmph. I thought not. 
Edited by jude111 - April 26 2013 at 22:56
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stegor
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Posted: April 27 2013 at 11:13 |
Epignosis wrote:
Also surprised "Four Sticks" isn't on here.
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Four Stix, my favorite under appreciated LZ track. I love how the 5/4 and 3/4 sections fit together. I don't know if it's their most prog but I love it.
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jude111
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Posted: April 27 2013 at 11:23 |
stegor wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Also surprised "Four Sticks" isn't on here.
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Four Stix, my favorite under appreciated LZ track. I love how the 5/4 and 3/4 sections fit together. I don't know if it's their most prog but I love it. |
Agreed. Other tracks on IV get all the notice (Stairway, Levee, Rock & Roll, Black Dog, Evermore, Going to California), but it's Four Sticks and Misty Mountain Hop that are the real backbone of this album. Such an amazing album, one that's hard to appreciate because of its ubiquity (every song got massive air play on AOR stations in the US in the 70s/80s).
Edited by jude111 - April 27 2013 at 11:24
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dr wu23
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Posted: April 28 2013 at 10:10 |
stegor wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Also surprised "Four Sticks" isn't on here.
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Four Stix, my favorite under appreciated LZ track. I love how the 5/4 and 3/4 sections fit together. I don't know if it's their most prog but I love it. |
Yep...that's a great song and one of my favorites by them.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
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stegor
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Posted: April 28 2013 at 22:08 |
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Come to think of it, 4 Sticks is probably the only song from IV I haven't heard on the radio.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: April 28 2013 at 22:10 |
awaken77 wrote:
Led Zeppelin is as progressive as Guns And Roses is
if any kind of long song is "progressive" , so "November Rain" is a prog-epic lol: |
Spoken by someone who's probably only heard 'Black Dog'.
No Quarter, Achilles, The Song Remains the Same, the Rain Song, Carouselambra, etc, not prog? Eh?
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