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MillsLayne 
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 Posted: March 03 2013 at 17:35 |
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Fun race today at Phoenix and Carl Edwards snaps a 70 race winless streak, beating out Jimmie Johnson and Denny Hamlin. NASCAR needs more tracks like this because the racing is always awesome in Phoenix, no matter what car is being run, unlike all the new 1.5 mile cookie cutters.
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Posted: March 04 2013 at 03:46 |
F1 Barcelona testing is over, what do you make of the Red Bulls being over 2 seconds off the pace of the fastest? The weather was far from ideal so it's early for rushing to conclusions but it was the same for everybody. It looks like Mercedes have done their homework.
Unofficial aggregate times from second Barcelona test:
1. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 1:20.130, 251 laps
2. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1:20.494, 222 laps
3. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:20.588, 230 laps
4. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:21.266, 206 laps
5. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1:21.444, 194 laps
6. Nico Hulkenberg, Sauber, 1:21.541, 197 laps
7. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 1:21.627, 171 laps
8. Kimi Raikkonen, Lotus, 1:21.658, 50 laps
9. Paul di Resta, Force India, 1:21.664, 169 laps
10. Pastor Maldonado, Williams, 1:22.305, 151 laps
11. Valtteri Bottas, Williams, 1:22.468, 147 laps
12. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:22.514, 165 laps
13. Esteban Gutierrez, Sauber, 1:22.553, 191 laps
14. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 1:22.658, 149 laps
15. Sergio Perez, McLaren, 1:22.694, 201 laps
16. Romain Grosjean, Lotus, 1:22.716, 186 laps
17. Charles Pic, Caterham, 1:23.115, 199 laps
18. Jules Bianchi, Marussia, 1:23.167, 136 laps
19. Jean-Eric Vergne, Toro Rosso, 1:23.223, 173 laps
20. Davide Valsecchi, Lotus, 1:23.448, 16 laps
21. Daniel Ricciardo, Toro Rosso, 1:23.628, 152 laps
22. Max Chilton, Marussia, 1:24.103, 202 laps
23. Giedo van der Garde, Caterham, 1:24.235, 174 laps
Edited by Gerinski - March 04 2013 at 03:54
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Posted: March 04 2013 at 06:45 |
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Red Bul weren't going for times. The teams seemed to have had a lot of trouble with the tyres degrading extremely quickly, making it difficult to tell where everybody is. All I'll say is that it seems fairly close between Red Bull, Ferrari, McLaren, Lotus and Mercedes with Sauber, Williams, Force India and Torro Rosso equally close and not that far off the main group. Marussia have definitely made some gains over last year thouhg they'll still need some good luck to score points. Caterham seem to be the only team to have obvious problems, their car is routeenly the most evil handling thing out there.
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Posted: March 04 2013 at 06:45 |
 MillsLayne wrote:
Fun race today at Phoenix and Carl Edwards snaps a 70 race winless streak, beating out Jimmie Johnson and Denny Hamlin. NASCAR needs more tracks like this because the racing is always awesome in Phoenix, no matter what car is being run, unlike all the new 1.5 mile cookie cutters. |
Do they race at Nazareth? Probably the craziest oval I know of.
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Posted: March 04 2013 at 07:01 |
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I've just seen that Kubica has anounced his plans for the year, he'll be competing on 7 rounds of the WRC in a Citreon DS3 RRCin the WRC2 class, as well as selected outings in the European Rally Championship (almost certainly going to include his home event). First event will be the Rally Islas Canaries later this month.
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MillsLayne
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Posted: March 04 2013 at 13:58 |
sleeper wrote:
MillsLayne wrote:
Fun race today at Phoenix and Carl Edwards snaps a 70 race winless streak, beating out Jimmie Johnson and Denny Hamlin. NASCAR needs more tracks like this because the racing is always awesome in Phoenix, no matter what car is being run, unlike all the new 1.5 mile cookie cutters. |
Do they race at Nazareth? Probably the craziest oval I know of.
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No, that track shut down in 2004, although the Busch series and truck series used to race there. Unfortunate, really, because that track provided for some good racing.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 04 2013 at 14:17 |
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Yes, I really hated losing Nazareth :(
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Posted: March 04 2013 at 14:49 |
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Damn, I didnt know that. I remember the last IndyCar race their with Hornish vs Castroneves for the win. An oval with elevation change, absolutely crazy, but such fun to watch.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 04 2013 at 15:43 |
Quite a few good/classic tracks have left us. The 1.5 mile cookie cutter has become the in thing sadly. Honestly now that the 500 has passed any interest of mine has died lol ready for F1 
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Posted: March 04 2013 at 16:53 |
sleeper wrote:
Looks like the last spot on the grid will be confirmed today with Adrain Sutil rejoining Force India, so the line up looks like this:Red Bull- Sebastian Vettel/ Mark WebberFerrari- Fernando Alonso/ Felipe MassaMcLaren- Jneson Button/ Sergio PerezLotus- Kimi Raikkonen/ Romain GrosjeanMercedes- Lewis Hamilton/ Nico RosbergSauber- Nico Hulkenberg/ Esteban GutierrezForce India- Paul di Resta/ Adrian SutilWilliams- Pastor Maldonardo/ Valtori BottasTorro Rosso- Danial Ricciardo/ Jean Eric VergneCaterham- Charles Pic/ Giedo van der GardeMarussia- Max Chilton/ Luiz Razia
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Thanks for this. (and the addendum) Looking forward to the start!
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 10:41 |
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Interesting rumour thats been gathering pace since late last year is that Honda are on their way back to F1, possibly next year but most likely in 2015 with McLaren. Autosport are even repoting that according to Honda sources the board signed off on the development of a V6 turbo engine months ago. I really hope this is true.
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Posted: March 15 2013 at 07:34 |
Its time. Aussie GP this weekend and here are the practice times. McLaren are not looking good and Button has said points is all they can hope for this weekend. I know they werent expecting to be winning races from the word go but this is definitely worse than was expected, same goes for Williams who were talking about giving the big teams a hard time and are surprised they're off the pace.
Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps
1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m25.908 33
2. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m26.172s + 0.264 31
3. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m26.322s + 0.414 26
4. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m26.361s + 0.453 37
5. Romain Grosjean Lotus Renault 1m26.680s + 0.772 30
6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m26.748s + 0.840 35
7. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m26.772s + 0.864 28
8. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m26.855s + 0.947 32
9. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m27.435s + 1.527 34
10. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m28.187s + 2.279 34
11. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m28.294s + 2.386 30
12. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m28.311s + 2.403 37
13. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m28.566s + 2.658 32
14. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m28.627s + 2.719 31
15. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m28.772s + 2.864 33
16. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m28.852s + 2.944 36
17. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m28.968s + 3.060 35
18. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m29.386s + 3.478 38
19. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m29.696s + 3.788 30
20. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m30.165s + 4.257 37
21. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m30.600s + 4.692 34
22. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m32.450s + 6.542 11
Sebring 12 Hours tomorrow as well. It's the final year of the ALMS before it merges with Grand-Am next year so the last time LMP1 machinery will race there.
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Posted: March 15 2013 at 08:38 |
Indeed the low performance of McLaren is the biggest surprise, while Mercedes seem to have really improved, it's like Lewis Hamilton had a crystal ball  (his 7th place is misleading because he went off track trying to do his fast lap). And Williams are indeed a big disappointment. It's only early days though, gonna be interesting!
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Posted: March 15 2013 at 09:56 |
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My Money's on Raikkonen providing the biggest challenge, apparently he put in a very strong 14 lap run during P2 which suggests they've got a good race car to challenge with.
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Posted: March 15 2013 at 15:07 |
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Piss...with the new network carrying the races idk if I get qualifying on the telly.
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Posted: March 15 2013 at 19:39 |
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Whew...did check. Qualifying is being shown...and supposedly live. Excellent.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 16 2013 at 02:22 |
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Yup, F1 is still accessible to me and I assume races will be live.
Even better it's not Fox!!!
Aussie weather strikes again!
Rest of quali delayed...maybe it'll rain spiders during the race
Edited by JJLehto - March 16 2013 at 02:50
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Posted: March 16 2013 at 03:30 |
^ I was quite surprised that it was essentially the same team as well. Happily surprised mind you. And oh Austrailia...how silly you are.
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Posted: March 16 2013 at 08:58 |
I spend all morning avoiding the internet so quali isnt spoiled for me, only to find they delayed it after Q1 because of torential rain!  Oh well, I get Sebring tonight.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 16 2013 at 12:59 |
Man With Hat wrote:
^ I was quite surprised that it was essentially the same team as well. Happily surprised mind you.
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Yes, I liked them. Really see why people didn't...I assume it's because on internet forums/chats we have to be "alternative" but they were quite fine. Glad they are back. Wow I've really gotten bad. Used to not miss anything, now didn't even know Sebring was on. Well it'll give me something to occupy my day until drinking happens tonight!
Edited by JJLehto - March 16 2013 at 13:02
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