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Raccoon
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 18:36 |
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Horizons
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 18:45 |
More accessible than Insurgentes? I mean if walls of sound turn you off that much.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Argonaught
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 18:55 |
Finnforest wrote:
I know I need to keep trying to like Grace. Too many people I respect think its the cat's meow. But God it just bores the sh*t outta me.....right now I'm giving it a hiatus to see if I can come back to it later. The Incident is just such an example for me. Took me quite a while to appreciate. Now it's very high on my PT list.
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Why do you feel you need to keep trying to like Grace? In his 25-26 years of music-making Wilson has produced such a vast body of work that there is something for everybody to love, to hate and to be indifferent to. You might find it easier and more pleasant just to like what you like, and ignore what you don't.
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 19:13 |
Because some albums are growers and don't appeal to me initially, though later they do. I try to give albums, especially well respected ones, time. Many times I've come to appreciate or even love albums I loathed initially. Had I written them off quickly I'd have missed out on some great stuff.
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Raccoon
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 19:16 |
Horizons wrote:
More accessible than Insurgentes? I mean if walls of sound turn you off that much.
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Far more accessible for a progressive fan, yes. I do love Insurgentes also, but I must admit, The Raven blows it out of the water.
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Raccoon
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 19:17 |
Finnforest wrote:
Because some albums are growers and don't appeal to me initially, though later they do. I try to give albums, especially well respected ones, time. Many times I've come to appreciate or even love albums I loathed initially. Had I written them off quickly I'd have missed out on some great stuff.
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I feel the same way. I want to understand why some people love this album. King Crimson was like that. Some hated Lizard, some loved it immensely. I tried it over and over, and now it remains as my favorite KC album. Every album needs a re-re-re-re-listen.
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 19:27 |
great avatar Brandon! ^
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Argonaught
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 19:44 |
Raccoon wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
Because some albums are growers and don't appeal to me initially, though later they do. I try to give albums, especially well respected ones, time. Many times I've come to appreciate or even love albums I loathed initially. Had I written them off quickly I'd have missed out on some great stuff.
This phenomenon is completely unfamiliar to me. In fact, with me it's often the other way around: I may give something the benefit of the doubt, extrapolating my expectations from the previous experience (or drifting along with wishful thinking), only to be a little disappointed afterwards, when the anticipation fails reality check.
| I feel the same way. I want to understand why some people love this album. King Crimson was like that. Some hated Lizard, some loved it immensely. I tried it over and over, and now it remains as my favorite KC album. Every album needs a re-re-re-re-listen.
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Both the Lizard/Poseidon/Islands triad and the next one, LTIA/Starless/Red, are excellent - with different lineups, in different ways, for different moods, but both great.
Edited by Argonaught - February 28 2013 at 19:45
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 20:05 |
^ I have certainly had that happen too. Loved something right out of the box and grew to despise it. Yup, that's happened a number of times.
Both phenomena are a big reason I try to wait quite a while before reviewing something.
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Dellinger
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Posted: February 28 2013 at 20:35 |
Finnforest wrote:
Grace, bottom line I didn't buy the "proggy", intense sections at all...thought they felt totally contrived, proggy for the sake of it, whereas I think he is brilliant and a natural for crafting melodic pop with crossover or metal overtones. But I'm sort on an outlier Wilson fan I suspect....I'd much rather hear FoaBP or Incident than Sky Move Sideways or most of his earlier, "cool" stuff.Just bought the concert DVD too! Excited, but I doubt it will slay me like Anesthetize or Octane. But I'll give it and Raven a fair shot, I promise you that |
I don't know much of the pre-Harrison Porcupine Tree, except for the live album "Coma Divine", and so far I got all the Harrison albums, however I haven't enjoyed any of them as much as "Coma Divine", I kind of find it more interesting and all. For that matter, I also liked "Grace for Drowning" more than any of those albums more, though for different reasons. As for the Lizard/Islands comparisons made with Grace for Drowning, I kind of agree too, though I like GfD more than those Crimson albums too.
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Raccoon
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Posted: March 01 2013 at 18:18 |
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