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Points: 24598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 10:51
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:


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A sight to behold, I am sure

I have been very vocal in classes like that but eventually I get tired of always being in the minority and heading so much nonsense around me. Usually I spent the later weeks of such classes silent as an oak.
I get the urge to do that as well. However, if not for the arguments, then I would have little incentive to even attend the lectures since they're just a regurgitation of theory that's easily understandable without the intercession of a professor.
Agreed. Though there is an extra "incentive" in some classes called "mandatory attendance or points taken" . I've always felt that as being treated as a child.
I never understood the whole "mandatory attendance" thing. I feel that most classes don't even need mandatory attendance policies because if you don't show up to class and learn about any of the material that way, you won't do well on quizzes and tests.

Unless like Pat said it's one where they just regurgitate information that could easily be learned without having a professor tell you everything.
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Math Theory is most likely an introduction to proofs class.

He could combine the two. Biological Mathematics exploded in the past few years and continues to accelerate. I was doing neurological research for a few months before I realized it really wasn't my thing. It would be a path worth considering.
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Yeah Bioinformatics is huge right now.
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"mandatory attendance" could be so the lecturer/professor gets paid, most education administration seems to be a numbers/head-count game these days.
What?
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Math Theory is most likely an introduction to proofs class.

He could combine the two. Biological Mathematics exploded in the past few years and continues to accelerate. I was doing neurological research for a few months before I realized it really wasn't my thing. It would be a path worth considering.
Well he's still only a sophomore, so he has a lot of paths open. I will definitely mention it to him.
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Also, to get a little back on-topic, I thought this was an interesting presentation.
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Originally posted by horsewithteeth11 horsewithteeth11 wrote:

Also, to get a little back on-topic, I thought this was an interesting presentation.
It is just playing with words really isn't it? It looks like a duck, walks like a duck but quacks like a goose. So what? They both roast up a treat and taste scrummy with taters and gravy. If you see someone coming at you with a gun that looks like a M4A1 carbine but could be an AR-15 are you going to ask the guy which it is before taking cover? "Don't worry lads, he can only fire 45 rounds a minute and there's five of us, erm.. four of us, erm I mean three .. errr .... two... OH SHHIIIII...!"
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

"mandatory attendance" could be so the lecturer/professor gets paid, most education administration seems to be a numbers/head-count game these days.


That's not the case in my experience. Administration requires it for many introductory level classes in an important sequence that's judged too necessary to leave to the whims of students they find to be irresponsible because of their placement status. Many professors do it on a personal basis for individual reasons which I feel mostly boils down to fragile egos and control issues.
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Yes, mandatory attendance is in my view just an ego issue where teachers want to exercize what little control over others life has granted them in the only way they can. Also, if they feel (know) that their subject is of little of no relevance for nobody they need to proof themselves to be important by forcing students to show up.

A few probaby do it out of an old fashioned but quite commendable desire to teach discipline to young punks and show them that showing up for things they don't like will take them farther later in life than slacking but the percentage is probably low on these.
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I don't see how forcing people to attend lets them learn that. It makes them still hate showing up for boring things and frothing at the mouth for a time when they have the supposed freedom to skip.

I find it much more fruitful to keep attendance completely optional. The first time a student misses an exam because you are having it in a different building and only announced this on one day of class, they tend to take attendance more seriously.
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 14:20
Agreed. I was explaining it from their perspective. Wrong as it might be.
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When it comes presidential kill lists, too many in the media dig absolute power absolutely.


Time always wins.
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which is the better "God Made a...." parody?:
 
Factory Farmer
or
Banker
 


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There should be just a tad bit more outrage over this.
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Glad I don't live in L.A.  Between the thugs and the cops, nobody is safe. 
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Points: 24598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 15:31
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

There should be just a tad bit more outrage over this.
I'm glad someone else heard about this today besides me. I smell a lawsuit coming from this.


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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2013 at 14:50
And now after another accidental shooting, they burn the man alive. Yay for the justice system right?
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Any sympathy for the female basketball coach and her fiance who were executed by the ex policemen? What did they do to deserve to lose their lives? 
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Points: 4335 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2013 at 17:23

Who said they deserved to lose their lives?  I have sympathy for them as I have sympathy for those killed by current policemen.  We just have a problem with the current policemen's behavior in trying to capture this thug.  I mean, you can't really defend them shooting up cars just because they happen to look like his or burning down a cabin that may or may not have him in it.  Would rather due process than this:


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Points: 5319 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2013 at 17:40
Who said i defended anyone. I asked if anyone had sympathy for innocent victims That's all. Don't make it more. The "thug" knew what the end line of his rampage would be. The innocent probably never knew what hit them.
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