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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 11:56
I mentioned it because it's Controversial and this thread is about "Prog's Most Controversial Lyricist".
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 12:29
An album being a bit offensive to you isn't Controversial with a capital "C"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 15:27
What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:18
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me.
What offends you about it? That there are child-abusing religious cults out there or that someone tells the world about them?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:30
Anyone has a right to be offended I guess. As is offending someone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:34
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Anyone has a right to be offended I guess. As is offending someone.
 
Snow Puppy TongueHugI guess it all depends on how open minded a person might be, open minded people tend to take less offense I think Smile different factors do play a major role too I know Hug
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:36
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Anyone has a right to be offended I guess. As is offending someone.
 
Snow Puppy TongueHugI guess it all depends on how open minded a person might be, open minded people tend to take less offense I think Smile different factors do play a major role too I know Hug

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:59
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Anyone has a right to be offended I guess. As is offending someone.
 
Snow Puppy TongueHugI guess it all depends on how open minded a person might be, open minded people tend to take less offense I think Smile different factors do play a major role too I know Hug

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 19:11
^OKay, back off now.Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 20:17
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me.
What offends you about it? That there are child-abusing religious cults out there or that someone tells the world about them?
I know Steven Wilson has said that he doesn't condone those kind of things but I feel that that is too strong a subject matter to write about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 21:05
Censorship is a cancer to art. i say bring on the offense, and make me feel something, and make me think about something. The fact that you're so offended simply means that Wilson and Waters did there jobs as genuine artists.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2013 at 23:13
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me.
What offends you about it? That there are child-abusing religious cults out there or that someone tells the world about them?
I know Steven Wilson has said that he doesn't condone those kind of things but I feel that that is too strong a subject matter to write about.


Someone has to write about them.  If no one exposes the works of darkness, then who will fight them?  You're entitled to choose what music you do and don't want to listen to (and I quite understand not being fond of that particular song; even though I'm not familiar with it, the subject matter as described here doesn't exactly sound pleasant).  But I admire any artist who has the courage to stand up and say something about the evil in this world.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2013 at 19:47
These are the lyrics from "The Blind House" that offended me.
 
"Faith is in your soul
But in these walls
Hormones stall
Dogs will crawl
The vices and the doubt
We resist
All this s**t
So kneel submit

Free love
Free love
Feel love in all my sisters"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2013 at 20:08
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

These are the lyrics from "The Blind House" that offended me.
 
"Faith is in your soul
But in these walls
Hormones stall
Dogs will crawl
The vices and the doubt
We resist
All this s**t
So kneel submit

Free love
Free love
Feel love in all my sisters"

What is your interpretation of those lyrics that offends you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2013 at 20:37
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

These are the lyrics from "The Blind House" that offended me.
 
"Faith is in your soul
But in these walls
Hormones stall
Dogs will crawl
The vices and the doubt
We resist
All this s**t
So kneel submit

Free love
Free love
Feel love in all my sisters"

What is your interpretation of those lyrics that offends you?
I'm pretty sure that these lyrics condone sexual abuse. That is why it offends me. But I admit there is chance that I could be misunderstanding what the lyrics mean.
If the latter is the case, Then what are the lyrics trying to say?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2013 at 03:29
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

These are the lyrics from "The Blind House" that offended me.
 
"Faith is in your soul
But in these walls
Hormones stall
Dogs will crawl
The vices and the doubt
We resist
All this s**t
So kneel submit

Free love
Free love
Feel love in all my sisters"

What is your interpretation of those lyrics that offends you?
I'm pretty sure that these lyrics condone sexual abuse. That is why it offends me. But I admit there is chance that I could be misunderstanding what the lyrics mean.
If the latter is the case, Then what are the lyrics trying to say?
The lyrics are about the sexual abuse of young girls by religious cults - they are relating the story of the "Incident" not condoning it. Just because a lyric refers to a particular act it does not mean that they are condoning that act. If a character in a Shakespeare play condones the murder of someone it does not mean that Shakespeare condoned that murder.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2013 at 04:27
^ the Ozzy Syndrome
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2013 at 21:33
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

What I'm talking about is Part Two of "The Incident" called "The Blind House".
What it's about is very controversial and it offended me.

What offends you about it? That there are child-abusing religious cults out there or that someone tells the world about them?


I still think that the majority of bad and controversial lyricists are the ones that never play or create an album of music, and then SING it ... very 20th/21st century thing with all the blogs, clogs, and troggs and boards, wouldn't you say, Dean?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2013 at 06:01
I find these lyrics from "The Planets" by Flaming Youth to be controversial.
 
"Mackie's gone on rubber, while our Debbie digs her brother
And their Des is doing well on the game"
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2013 at 06:14
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