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Posted: February 08 2013 at 19:31

Looks delicious to me.

Where is it from, some Western-European cuisine?

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 19:34

Dayvenkirq wrote:

Where is it from, some Western-European cuisine?

I have a Latin cookbook with a recipe for larks' tongues (It begins "Catch 1000 larks. Remove tongues. Discard larks.") so I always assumed it was an ancient Roman dish.

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 19:36

That doesn't look like the cover of the Crimson album I have

.......and it doesn't even look tasty at all (to me)......

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 19:39

I intend on releasing an album called 'two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles and onions on a sesame seed bun in aspic' sometime next year........

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 19:40

Too yello for the jello.

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 19:50

...................and it will have an eccentric percussionist featured............

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 21:46

thellama73 wrote:

I love you guys. Heart

P.S. For the record, KC is better than Yes.

I disagree

“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 21:47

Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Oh, c'mon!

ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Bill as much as I love his drumming and talents can come across a douchbag. He talks about Yes in a condescending way and gives way too much credit to King Crimson.

I'm gonna have to see some evidence of that.

On a more relevant note: as Austin (Horizons) was saying (and I'll back him up again), the KC niche was a better place for Bill. In "Prog Rock Britannia" he admitted that he probably should have kickstarted his career as a jazz drummer, not as a rock drummer, ... which is also the reason why he put up with KC a long time ago and just stuck with jazz. Whatever serves him right.

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..........or why not - '40th Anniversary of Jamie Muir joining AND leaving King Crimson'............???

I guess you missed it was in Prog Rock Britannia

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 21:50

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thellama73 wrote:

I love you guys. Heart

P.S. For the record, KC is better than Yes.

I disagree

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 21:50

bytor2112 wrote:

ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

I love you guys. Heart

P.S. For the record, KC is better than Yes.

I disagree

Shocking

like this

“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 21:58

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Dayvenkirq wrote:

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He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart.

From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me

He wasn't talking about what was better for you. He was talking about what was better for Bill. Both bands could compose, but KC decided to do more than that - improvise, and that was right up Bill's alley.

yeah yeah so can Yes, Sound Chaser and The Ancient obliterate any of KC's work Cool

Just kidding they don't.

Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.

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Posted: February 08 2013 at 22:01

Horizons wrote:

ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Dayvenkirq wrote:

dr prog wrote:

Horizons wrote:

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart.

From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me

yeah yeah so can Yes, Sound Chaser and The Ancient obliterate any of KC's work Cool

Just kidding they don't.

Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 08 2013 at 22:03

“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart

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Posted: February 11 2013 at 14:57

It's still tragic to me, because even though Crimson gained a phenomenal drummer, they always lacked in the vocal department without Lake. ELP has never been worth the power in vocals Lake brought to KC on their first two albums, and could've brought to the proceeding albums.

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Posted: February 11 2013 at 15:28

ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

dr prog wrote:

Horizons wrote:

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart.

From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me

here is someone who gets it dr prog you are Cool

I played larks album recently and just didn't enjoy it much. The album has major holes I reckon. There's no kick ass compositions such as gentle giants playing the game or the runaway. Brilliant tracks. I only like wettons voice in the slow tracks. His voice sucks in easy money a bit

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Posted: February 11 2013 at 16:03

i am just starting to read a french translation of his autobiography call "Bill Bruford, l'Autobiographie, Yes, King Crimson, Earthworks et le reste". by Aymeric Leroy. Plenty of fun read for a month at least....

Edited by rdtprog - February 11 2013 at 16:07

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Posted: February 11 2013 at 18:17

dr prog wrote:

ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

dr prog wrote:

Horizons wrote:

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart.

From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me

here is someone who gets it dr prog you are Cool

That's like my favorite KC song.

Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.

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Posted: February 11 2013 at 19:20

Dayvenkirq wrote:

Looks delicious to me.

Where is it from, some Western-European cuisine?

Please tell me these are NOT lark's tongues????

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Posted: February 11 2013 at 19:32

I think in KC there was more breathing space for Bruford than it had ever been, or could have been in Yes. For one thing, Bruford gravitated towards jazz ... KC was a lot more jazzy than Yes. For another, in Yes the drummer somehow never was a primary player (I am glad the bassist was, though).

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Posted: February 11 2013 at 19:38

dr prog wrote:

ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

dr prog wrote:

Horizons wrote:

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart.

From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me

here is someone who gets it dr prog you are Cool

I have always been a bit mystified by the love Larks' Tongues gets around here. Don't get me wrong, it has it's moments and I am a big KC fan in general, but compared to their other works it has always struck me as a bit lackluster. The only track on it I really love is The Talking Drum.

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Posted: February 11 2013 at 19:42

^ I always thought of four out of six tracks on the album as brothers, all heavy. The grooves, the sound of the guitar and the bass, masterful improvs and compositions. Bruford was definitely integral to that sound. A (mostly) dirty record, and that's why I like it.

Argonaught wrote:

Dayvenkirq wrote:

Looks delicious to me.

Where is it from, some Western-European cuisine?

Please tell me these are NOT lark's tongues????

I was thinking the same thing. Aren't they too large to be larks' tongues? BTW, I took the picture from a blog and took its author's word for it.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - February 11 2013 at 19:48