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digdug
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 09:22 |
Snow Dog wrote:
^Now that is a Prog band. |
You always were a Moody dude Snow Dog
Yes, the Moody blues are Prog, I say yes
and so are yes
Edited by digdug - January 30 2013 at 13:08
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The Doctor
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 09:54 |
I don't see how anyone could consider their first seven (Hayward) albums anything but prog. Even Octave and Long Distance Voyager still had some remnants of prog, although after that, the prog aspects were pretty much gone from their music. But their first seven albums are classic prog.
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twosteves
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 10:20 |
Maybe it's because as big a band as Moodies were--non of their albums show up in top 100---guess the group is not too popular on this site (but then again neither does legendary prog album Tales from Topographic Oceans )
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Jonathan
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 10:33 |
In my opinion they were one of the First Prog Rock Bands ever. If they aren't Prog then nothing is.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 13:11 |
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 13:16 |
I now have it opened for multiple votes but please don't vote more than twice.
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Earthmover
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 13:26 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
I now have it opened for multiple votes but please don't vote more than twice.
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What's the point of the poll allowing multiple votes?
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bobthenob
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 13:44 |
"True progressive" really? How pompouse and full of hot air can one get? If they bore you, so be it. Over 1/2 the bands on this site do that for me. If you enjoy it, and it moves you, and you say to yourself that it meets the crieria of "True Progressive", then, 'nuff said. As someone else said....I didn't know there was a test or something....."do you have a Prog License?"
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lazland
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 16:05 |
Dean wrote:
Hercules wrote:
If you were alive and listening to music in the late 60s (and I was) you would know that the Moodies were one of the bands that defined the genre.
So - yes, uneqivocally. |
Absolutely.
You guys can't keep trying to re-write history just because it doesn't fit with your modern interpretations of what is and what isn't Prog Rock. You can't make stuff up either. What happened, happened; what was, was. |
These two, in spades. Incredible that it should even be open to question.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 16:24 |
Were the Moody Blues ever a true prog band? Not really. King Crimson's innovation was distinguishing prog from psychedelic/pop roots, while 'Days of Future Passed' was generally a psychedelic album, but with complex symphonic arrangements (and their following albums were even closer to psychedelic pop). Thus The Moody Blues' early stuff falls straightly into proto-prog category.
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lazland
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 16:31 |
ole-the-first wrote:
Were the Moody Blues ever a true prog band? Not really. King Crimson's innovation was distinguishing prog from psychedelic/pop roots, while 'Days of Future Passed' was generally a psychedelic album, but with complex symphonic arrangements (and their following albums were even closer to psychedelic pop). Thus The Moody Blues' early stuff falls straightly into proto-prog category.
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Sorry, you are utterly wrong. The Moodies were considered to be an archetypal prog rock band, simple as. They considered themselves to be very much so, and I fail to see the Crimson point really. Why do people insist on these categorisations which fly in the face of musical history?
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Dean
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 17:11 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
I now have it opened for multiple votes but please don't vote more than twice. |
That was the dumbest request inthe history of this forum.
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What?
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ole-the-first
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 17:17 |
lazland wrote:
ole-the-first wrote:
Were the Moody Blues ever a true prog band? Not really. King Crimson's innovation was distinguishing prog from psychedelic/pop roots, while 'Days of Future Passed' was generally a psychedelic album, but with complex symphonic arrangements (and their following albums were even closer to psychedelic pop). Thus The Moody Blues' early stuff falls straightly into proto-prog category.
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Sorry, you are utterly wrong. The Moodies were considered to be an archetypal prog rock band, simple as. They considered themselves to be very much so, and I fail to see the Crimson point really. Why do people insist on these categorisations which fly in the face of musical history? |
Well, there are many ways to percept and interpret music. I believe that The Moody Blues were too psychedelic-influenced for being archetypical prog (whilst Crimson's influence was taken also from jazz, folk and modern classical music, and that fusion of everything with everything became a kind of attribute for almost all 70's prog bands). Though it's just my own opinion, I would always like to hear a different pointof view.
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This night wounds time.
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geneyesontle
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 17:29 |
Prog_Traveler, you put the option that you can vote many times in this poll, now this poll is a mess. Now that's a great STUPID poll.
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Dean
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 17:32 |
It only takes one idiot.
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What?
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Dellinger
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 17:39 |
So now I can vote for yes and no at the same time?
Or ever worse, I can vote 50 times for the one I think is the correct answer, and then someone that doesn't agree with me can vote 200 times for the other, and so on. Indeed, multiple votes is never a good idea, and as soon as I know a poll has that option available, I stop checking the results because I won't trust them.
By the way, I'm not voting anything on this poll because I don't know the band well enough to give my opinion on how proggy they are.
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irrelevant
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 18:09 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Oh they can't possibly be prog if they don't have metal in the music.
I think you can pretty much predict where people will come down on this based on how much they like metal...
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Jeez dude, what happened to ya?
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 18:15 |
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Ian
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Progosopher
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 18:32 |
Without question, yes. The fourth option makes what I consider a false assertion, that King Crimson is the beginning of Prog. ItCotCK was certainly a milestone, but it existed, and continues to exist within a continuum of releases. KC moved beyond what the Moodies had done earlier, but then the Moodies themselves moved beyond what they did earlier. That is a characteristic of progression. DoFP did things no one had done before, as did In Search of the Lost Chord. Even if they became a mostly pop band later on, they were still a true prog band at one time, so the answer again has to be "yes."
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: January 30 2013 at 18:34 |
Don't make polls multiple-vote, it accomplishes even less than the poll section usually does
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