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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 01:48
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

Blues and folk tradition is largely based on borrowing.
not really its based on sounding similar.
Yeah, ... because there is a huge difference.
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

what is it now Jamie Muir??? why go as far as to using profanity
That's Kyle MacLachlan, wisea$$.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - January 11 2013 at 01:50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 01:48
I wonder how many phrases Tony Banks has 'borrowed' from any number of sources during his career--  I think it's more than once

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 01:58
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

Blues and folk tradition is largely based on borrowing.
not really its based on sounding similar.
Yeah, ... because there is a huge difference.
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

what is it now Jamie Muir??? why go as far as to using profanity
That's Kyle MacLachlan, wisea$$.


I'm not talking about his avatar wisea$$ I'm calling him that because he made a comment about Jamie Muir on my thread about King Crimson drummers, you dork and why was Jamie on only one album?? King Crimson could have been interesting by using Bruford and Muir as an attack but no only one album will do.


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - January 11 2013 at 01:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 02:00
^ Then don't call him Jamie Muir. It makes no sense.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 02:00
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

I'm calling him that because he made a comment about Jamie Muir

And you will remind me about that until my decease and will read this comment on my funeral speech.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 02:10
Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

I'm calling him that because he made a comment about Jamie Muir

And you will remind me about that until my decease and will read this comment on my funeral speech.


Hell it should be a  compliment since Jamie was one of the few interesting things about King CrimsonWinkWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 02:11
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Then don't call him Jamie Muir. It makes no sense.


why not he reminded me of that time, he should take it as a compliment


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - January 11 2013 at 02:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 02:12
Thank you, sir, I really appreciate your compliment!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 02:23
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I wonder how many phrases Tony Banks has 'borrowed' from any number of sources during his career--  I think it's more than once



name some I wanna hear about them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 02:29
I never understood how people can try to fault anyone for 'plagiarizing' when it comes to blues based music...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 02:49
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I wonder how many phrases Tony Banks has 'borrowed' from any number of sources during his career--  I think it's more than once
name some I wanna hear about them
Bach Fugues, Vivaldi .. you name it.   The guy was a composer, that's what composers do; they bring together bits & pieces of music that for all practical purposes already exist, combine it with their own creations, and voilà, you have a varied, complex piece.   Whether or not it's any good is a matter of taste.   Banks was very, very good at it.   So was Keith Emerson.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 01:53
What a strange argument. Yes, Led Zeppelin plagiarized on numerous occasion. But that doesn't mean that all of their music is plagiarism, it doesn't mean their music sucks, and it certainly doesn't mean Led Zeppelin is not music. You can dislike Led Zeppelin. You can even say they suck. But don't try to rationalize it with silly arguments like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 02:45
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

What a strange argument. Yes, Led Zeppelin plagiarized on numerous occasion. But that doesn't mean that all of their music is plagiarism, it doesn't mean their music sucks, and it certainly doesn't mean Led Zeppelin is not music. You can dislike Led Zeppelin. You can even say they suck. But don't try to rationalize it with silly arguments like that.


I was joking they don't suck just not my cup of tea, there's too much "baby" in their lyrics and I find it somewhat overused and not that good
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 04:12
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I wonder how many phrases Tony Banks has 'borrowed' from any number of sources during his career--  I think it's more than once
name some I wanna hear about them
Bach Fugues, Vivaldi .. you name it.   The guy was a composer, that's what composers do; they bring together bits & pieces of music that for all practical purposes already exist, combine it with their own creations, and voilà, you have a varied, complex piece.   Whether or not it's any good is a matter of taste.   Banks was very, very good at it.   So was Keith Emerson.




Amen, thank you.   On another note, did tightening of copyright norms from 75 or so have something to do with prog rock bands running out of classical 'influence'? Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 20:47
^ Not sure, but I have noticed the 'Six Notes or Less' rule in musical propriety and plagiarism has given rise to some shrewd poaching of popular themes by certain big corporations;  I hear John Williams lifted regularly during those corporate logo flashes before and after films, other composer too like Danny Elfman.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2013 at 13:24
Houses of the Holy, if only for the Rain song, pure majesty... And then there's No Quarter, and all those other songs... Yeah, definitely Houses of the Holy !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2013 at 22:36
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

sure, and why not? Led Zeppeling took the blues and did progress it. look at a song like "Since I've Been Loving You" from their third album; that is progressive blues

Clap Yep, couldn't agree more.

Not only that I agree, but I think that In My Time Of Dyin' is an even (much) more progressive blues. I'd even stand for the "prog-blues" descriptor in its case.

The two worst songs by Zep, in my opinion LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2013 at 03:50
Houses of the Holy Smile 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2013 at 03:56
Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

I never understood how people can try to fault anyone for 'plagiarizing' when it comes to blues based music...


All cutural evolvment is based of what may be called 'plagiarizing'.
It is impossible listning to music, without carrying inspiration into your own creations, and it not a bad thing.
And im sure it no more evident in blues than in any other genre, every track with a drumset, is basicly inspired by african drumming.
As there was very Little drumming in traditional European music.
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2013 at 03:56
3 is my fave......just does it for me.
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