the importance of analog sound in prog

Snow Dog wrote: Dean wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Dean wrote: Snow Dog wrote: So nothing to do with sales.   No, not "nothing" - Pedro said "relative to sales" and he is right, it is relative to sales and that is something to do with sales. More people review an album that is more well known, it is more well known because it sold more copies to more people, therefore it gets more reviews because it sold more copies. Nope. Sorry will have to just disagree. Don't want to argue further or you to hurt your head any more. You are not disagreeing. You are saying we're wrong wiothout giving an explanation of why you think we are wrong. I am disagreeing. I just did it.

Then explain how it is nothing to do with sales. Explain why lesser known albums that sold fewer copies are not riding the top of the charts because they certainly have higher average ratings than all of the top 100 albums.

Edited by Dean - January 07 2013 at 12:59

Aquiring the Taste wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Dean wrote: Snow Dog wrote: So nothing to do with sales.   No, not "nothing" - Pedro said "relative to sales" and he is right, it is relative to sales and that is something to do with sales. More people review an album that is more well known, it is more well known because it sold more copies to more people, therefore it gets more reviews because it sold more copies. Nope. Sorry will have to just disagree. Don't want to argue further or you to hurt your head any more. Bad analogy!

^A loose relationship yes, but not....

^Not sure. Harmoniums  album used to be pretty high in the chart and I cannot imagine it had sales that compare to others there. 

I read a Jazz Times article on the recording techniques used for Michel Camilo's album Triangulo.  I thought this article will be very fitting to this thread, as both digital and analog recording techniques were used on it. 

Piano was recorded digitally:
" After recording many albums with a highly produced sound, Camilo wanted to finally capture an accurate representation of the piano’s acoustic beauty, overtones and all. Friedrich knew that the way to grant Camilo his wish was to record the piano digitally. “Some people like the way a piano sounds on analog,” he explains. “For me, it clouds it up.” Sounds like heresy, but sure enough, DSD keeps the piano clear throughout every register. Even the low notes—frequencies often muddied on lower-fidelity recordings—remain defined and punchy."

Drums and Bass were done analogue:
"but Friedrich didn’t slack on the drums or bass, which were recorded in analog on a Studer A-800 MK3 24-track tape deck reeling at 15-inches per second and locked to the DSD stream to keep the instruments in sync."

Entire article here:

http://jazztimes.com/articles/19882-making-michel-camilo-s-triangulo


Edited by Neelus - January 08 2013 at 08:58

Gerinski wrote: ... So with these reservations I second Snow Dog in that Pedro's claim that PA charts are basically driven by sales is not fair.

Edited by moshkito - January 08 2013 at 15:05

I disagree with the OP.  It's entirely possible to have an album completely digtally recorded that sounds totally analog.

Edited by reformationband - January 13 2013 at 09:16

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is dynamic range.  A vinyl disc at best can deliver a dynamic range of 60Db which is okay for most rock - there really isn't a very large dynamic range.  In classical music however, the dynamic range between ppp and fff is more like 90Db and only a digital signal in the form of a CD can reproduce that sort of range.  In classical music, analog does NOT equate with better and classical CDs blow away their analog counterparts. 

Edited by docall27 - January 13 2013 at 23:15

Snow Dog wrote: ^I  think the way the Classical world has embraced the CD is very telling.