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ProgMetaller2112 
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 Posted: December 23 2012 at 23:06 |
 Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Yes or No? |
No.
After all, he saved progressive rock genre with Discipline the album. |
he didn't save prog rock with Discipline,
remember the band was on hiatus from 75-80 I 'd argue that Rush saved
prog rock when others were either going extinct or "selling out" with 2112-Moving Pictures then they came back with Discipline, all you guys are acting as if Fripp is god or something, I know I'm gonna hear about it from someone |
You are gonna hear that a lot around here. And Fripp is God. Ask Jesus.
Still waiting for more silly laughs. |
Fripp ain't God, he just is a nice human being who doesn't like pictures and gets praised by people who think they know all about music, nobody knows everything about music, sorry to tell you that
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 23 2012 at 23:18 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I study this s$&t too, and yet I don't think they are. |
Crimson has made a living on raping and repeating things over and over ie(In the Court of The Crimson King  , Lizard , The Talking Drum , Red )
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 23 2012 at 23:36 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Yes or No? |
No.
After all, he saved progressive rock genre with Discipline the album. |
he didn't save prog rock with Discipline,
remember the band was on hiatus from 75-80 I 'd argue that Rush saved
prog rock when others were either going extinct or "selling out" with 2112-Moving Pictures then they came back with Discipline, all you guys are acting as if Fripp is god or something, I know I'm gonna hear about it from someone |
You are gonna hear that a lot around here. And Fripp is God. Ask Jesus.
Still waiting for more silly laughs. |
ok fanboy
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:13 |
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 24 2012 at 00:13
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Sagichim
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:16 |
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:17 |
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“War is peace.
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Ignorance is strength.”
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"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:21 |
^ This is how you extend an intelligent argumentative conversation? By turning one of my beliefs against me? How can you tell that I've never heard the band?
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Fripp ain't God, he just is a nice human being who doesn't like pictures and gets praised by people who think they know all about music, nobody knows everything about music, sorry to tell you that. |
No one around here (that I know or remember of) has ever claimed, explicitly or implicitly, that they know everything about music. What you are doing here is assuming, filling in the blanks by yourself, which is a dangerous practice when it comes down to argumentation.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:23 |
^ This is how you extend an intelligent argumentative conversation?
By turning one of my beliefs against me? How can you tell that I've
never heard the band
you fail to see that those songs are indeed repetitive and nothing special
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:26 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Fripp ain't God, he just is a nice human being who doesn't like pictures and gets praised by people who think they know all about music, nobody knows everything about music, sorry to tell you that
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Are you talking about Robert Fripp?
Please, he's anything except a a nice human, the guy is a jerk, arrogant, offensive and aggressive with the fans who pay his way of life.
He's good that's undeniable, I don't believe he's as good as he considers himself, but it's only my opinion..
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - December 24 2012 at 00:27
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:27 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
^ This is how you extend an intelligent argumentative conversation?
By turning one of my beliefs against me? How can you tell that I've
never heard the band
you fail to see that those songs are indeed repetitive and nothing special
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1) What makes you think that I fail to see repetition within their songs? 2) What is wrong with songs being repetitive? And why are we even discussing repetition within songs? 3) Whether something is special or not is really subjective. I don't know why I have keep reminding that to some people.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 24 2012 at 00:27
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:32 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
^ This is how you extend an intelligent argumentative conversation?
By turning one of my beliefs against me? How can you tell that I've
never heard the band
you fail to see that those songs are indeed repetitive and nothing special
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1) What makes you think that I fail to see repetition within their songs?2) What is wrong with songs being repetitive? And why are we even discussing repetition within songs? 3) Whether something is special or not is really subjective. I don't know why I have keep reminding that to some people. |
I'll answer those for you 1) What makes you think that I fail to see repetition within their songs?You haven't shown or displayed that they are 2) What is wrong with songs being repetitive? It becomes really irritating like some horrible hip-hop artist (Tyga for example) And why are we even discussing repetition within songs? Because I brought it up
3) Whether something is special or not is really subjective.: true that's what my opinion is I don't know why I have keep reminding that to some people you understand better 
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“War is peace.
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Ignorance is strength.”
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"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:35 |
^ I really don't. Please focus on one thing at a time. It's a bad idea to "stream" multiple topics at the same time.
I think we've just lost each other.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:35 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Fripp ain't God, he just is a nice human being who doesn't like pictures and gets praised by people who think they know all about music, nobody knows everything about music, sorry to tell you that
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Are you talking about Robert Fripp?
Please, he's anything except a a nice human, the guy is a jerk, arrogant, offensive and aggressive with the fans who pay his way of life.
He's good that's undeniable, I don't believe he's as good as he considers himself, but it's only my opinion..
Iván
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he's soft spoken and I thought he was nice, oh now I get it, no wonder there are no Fripp/Crimson MP3s, yikes thank for clarifying
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Svetonio
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:37 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Yes or No? |
No.
After all, he saved progressive rock genre with Discipline the album. |
Originally posted by Svetonio
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112
Yes or No? | No.
After all, he saved progressive rock genre with Discipline the album. | he didn't save prog rock with Discipline, remember the band was on hiatus from 75-80 I 'd argue that Rush saved prog rock when others were either going extinct or "selling out" with 2112-Moving Pictures then they came back with Discipline, all you guys are acting as if Fripp is god or something, I know I'm gonna hear about it from someone
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When I said "he saved progressive rock genre", I have in mind British progressive rock giants where Mr Fripp belong.
Sorry because I wasn't say it exactly.
That means nothing that the band was 5 years on hiatus.
On contrary, Mr Fripp was stopped his vehicle right in the time.
I'm old and I was 17 who already heard many LPs from 70s ( what a progrock fan as a young kid have to have in that time), when Discipline was released; I get that LP few weaks after THE album was released via an ancient mail from London.
I remmember the day when I heard that opening track intro from my ancient JBL4312 monitor speakers.
It was a really fresh air.
p.s. Fripp is not god. Clapton is god 
Edited by Svetonio - December 24 2012 at 00:49
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:37 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ I really don't. Please focus on one thing at a time. It's a bad idea to "stream" multiple topics at the same time.
I think we've just lost each other. |
i feel bad cuz I really do wanna like this band(i do a little) but I don't get the fuss behind them, I guess it was timing
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“War is peace.
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Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:37 |
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So, when you say "repetitive", do you mean that KC repeat some passages/ideas in their songs, or do you mean that they repeat other artists?
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:40 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Fripp ain't God, he just is a nice human being who doesn't like pictures and gets praised by people who think they know all about music, nobody knows everything about music, sorry to tell you that
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Are you talking about Robert Fripp?
Please, he's anything except a a nice human, the guy is a jerk, arrogant, offensive and aggressive with the fans who pay his way of life.
He's good that's undeniable, I don't believe he's as good as he considers himself, but it's only my opinion..
Iván
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he's soft spoken and I thought he was nice, oh now I get it, no wonder there are no Fripp/Crimson MP3s, yikes thank for clarifying. |
1) What do you mean by soft spoken? 2) Again, lose the attitude. 3) What makes you think there are no Fripp/KC mp3's? 
Damn it, you are doing it again. You are splitting a conversation into branches. You'll never convince anyone of your beliefs that way.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 24 2012 at 00:41
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:44 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:48 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Fripp ain't God, he just is a nice human being who doesn't like pictures and gets praised by people who think they know all about music, nobody knows everything about music, sorry to tell you that
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Are you talking about Robert Fripp?
Please, he's anything except a a nice human, the guy is a jerk, arrogant, offensive and aggressive with the fans who pay his way of life.
He's good that's undeniable, I don't believe he's as good as he considers himself, but it's only my opinion..
Iván
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he's soft spoken and I thought he was nice, oh now I get it, no wonder there are no Fripp/Crimson MP3s, yikes thank for clarifying. |
1) What do you mean by soft spoken?2) Again, lose the attitude. 3) What makes you think there are no Fripp/KC mp3's?
Damn it, you are doing it again. You are splitting a conversation into branches. You'll never convince anyone of your beliefs that way.
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I've looked all over the place for Crimson/Fripp mp3's can't find anything and whats with all the overpriced albums??? I'm sorry that Robert had to retire I'm truly sorry about that though  , what am I doing I'm simply just replying to Ivan's post
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:48 |
^ 1) Please, stop asking me whether or not I've heard a KC album. I've spent a couple of years listening to them. Why do you think I have Fripp as my avatar? Just to show everyone that I heard the guy and I love him and the band (without actually meaning that)? Has it ever occurred to you that it would be a very pretentious thing to do on my part? Why do you think I'd do that? Why are you questioning my motives?
2) I've never heard of Tyga, and right now I don't care who that is.
3) You know that you can still download KC and Fripp's albums, right?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 24 2012 at 00:49
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