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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 08:44
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:


Sounds like what happens under capitalism. When the oppressed fight back is it somehow more morally reprehensible?


Nope. It's not. When the "oppressed" fight back it is though. And when the oppressed fight back by assassinations and uncontrolled violence it is. And when the oppressed fight back by destroying capital which will necessarily lead to mass starvation then it is.
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Taxing the Poor


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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 10:32
I love Thomas Sowell. 
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 15:36
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I love Thomas Sowell. 


And he loves you, buddy.
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Points: 4335 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 17:58
Alright, everyone bring it in. Group hug


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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Oh man, I've been staring at that middle picture in MoM's sig for months wondering who it was. I never recognized her as Kari Byron.


for shame!
Oh also..uh something about the government not being very good, and such
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Points: 4335 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 18:18
Rabble rabble rabble!


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Points: 4335 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 18:21
Anyone know how many pages long the 3 libertarian threads are combined, right now?


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At least 500 it must be.

Most of us here, either being libertarian, liberal or just a druggie...already are cool with legalization but this is great.
The result of illegality being supporting drug cartels...just blew my mind. Really shows screwed up the drug war is
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 18:48
That is a good one, but I prefer his speech one why would should end the FDA.
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Outlawing a good never quashes the demand for it.  Hence [dangerous] black markets in which criminals can profit.

Ever hear of "Bootleggers and Baptists?"
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 18:54
There has to have been someone once who complained about the term "black market" being politically incorrect.
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Oh yeah, I already had a laundry list of why the drug war was dumb...but it was always the surface reasons. Never before I had to underlying reason for it's failure, that you can't stop a market.
As ya said Rob either the demand, thus supply, exists or it doesn't. Just makes me giggle so many "limited government conservatives" I know are still so against it. Guess they never knew of Friedman
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2012 at 19:07
I can try and understand why people with strong moral values would oppose rampant drug use which is what they think would happen with legalization. I of course favor individual choice.
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Naturally, but you hit the key word....think.
When we think about it, it makes sense not much would change. I mean I don't do heroin but its because I dont wanna do it (DMT on the other hand...)
Also some give it no real thought, just "drugs are bad mkay" or those few with boners for power that like to run our lives. But for now....idk let's smoke in protestSmoke
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Maybe I can find someone in the libertarian thread that agrees that Obama is a piece os sh*t for this:
 
Today's act was disgusting and should be nothing but abhorred but so shouldn't our government's actions overseas? 


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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2012 at 17:50
Answers you might get:

"That was done to protect us".
"It's casualties of war"
"He is our commander-in-chief and has to make the tough decisions"
"Bush did it and you didn't say anything. Bush started this".

Or the more honest answer someone might give you:

"Those were pakistanis. Ours were American. There is a difference".

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Points: 8543 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2012 at 18:17
You forgot "While I don't agree with the drone attacks either, that's pretty freaking opportunistic of you to politicize this."   Somehow, I question the stated concern for the Pakistani children in this case and write him off as a rabid Obama hater who will hate him for anything and everything he does.  No that doesn't make Obama's actions right, but it makes the poster rather disingenuous.  I'm sure MoM would have no problem letting those same children starve to death or die while working in sweat shops if they didn't come from parents with means.
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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SELF EDITED ORIGINAL OPENING TO AVOID RECIEVING A BAN.  You go out of your way to ignore everything any of us has posted in opposition to this government's atrocities overseas that have killed thousands so you can continue this sweatshop ignorance.  In your sick mind then jobs that actually keep those who wouldn't otherwise have any money to feed themselves alive are more dispicable than assassinations.  I care about human life, while you've made it blatantly clear you do not.  I don't think I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with a more dispicable human being... and I once shook dick cheney's hand.



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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2012 at 18:47
I kind of think the whole "it's wrong to use a tragedy to make a political point" thing is bogus. Both sides do this all the time, and in many cases these tragedies are vivid examples of a problem that needs to be solved, or at least discussed (although I don't think the current tragedy qualifies.)

Imagine that a particular policy allowed a dangerous criminal to be released from prison and he then committed a horrible crime. Would it not be appropriate to question the policy that let him back on the street?
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