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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:00
Anthem is the one I don't know the story behind it either (aside from she don't like guvment) so maybe that'll be somewhere to start.

I'm more intrigued to start "We" by Yevgeny Zamyatin (WTF). It's one of the earliest dystopian novels and was supposedly a major influence on 1984 and Rand and dystopia lit in general.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:03
I love Anthem. The Road to Serfdom is good but Hayek was not a terrific writer, his ideas clearly surpassing the excitement one feels at reading them. It feels like a long lecture. A good one though. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:06
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I love Anthem. The Road to Serfdom is good but Hayek was not a terrific writer, his ideas clearly surpassing the excitement one feels at reading them. It feels like a long lecture. A good one though. 


Definitely. I usually recommend Capitalism and Freedom to people looking to get started in libertarianism because it is so clearly written and such an easy read. Hayek ids much tougher to get through, but certainly worth it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:07
I'm such a nerd though I'd enjoy that. It's already shipped from Amazon anyway so too late!


Edit: I already read Capitalism and Freedom, it was indeed my stepping stone. Friedman was actually my single biggest influence.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:19
Try Sinclair Lewis' It Can't Happen Here.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:22
Sure thing, any politically oriented book I'm game! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:25
Same here. History and politics it's all I read lately. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:42

Got the point of Anthem after about a page but it just kept going, and going, and going.  Seriously, just listen to Rush instead.  It's not as though she was any friend of libertarians, anyway.  Her hatred of "savages" (American Indians) and "primitives" (Arabs), desire to see Israel get rid of the primitives, the general aggressiveness of objectivists (believe most support the use of force in Iran), and all these statements make her and objectivism, in general, sh*tty.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:46
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Got the point of Anthem after about a page but it just kept going, and going, and going.  Seriously, just listen to Rush instead.  It's not as though she was any friend of libertarians, anyway.  Her hatred of "savages" (American Indians) and "primitives" (Arabs), desire to see Israel get rid of the primitives, the general aggressiveness of objectivists (believe most support the use of force in Iran), and all these statements make her and objectivism, in general, sh*tty.



Her prose was wooden, and her sex scenes weren't even interesting to a high school student.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 20:49
^ Yes, as I've said: she's also an awful writer


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 21:00
Yikes, I know she had some....interesting beliefs but didn't know there were these neo con like tendencies Disapprove
Bad sex scenes eh? Well hell that just is a deal breaker obviouslyLOL Honestly, I already felt like the time passed and I have so many other books, even non political, so I didn't see reading her any time soon. Esp since atlas shrugged is 1000+??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 21:00
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

^ Yes, as I've said: she's also an awful writer


Yes, she is.  I was agreeing with you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 21:10
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

^ Yes, as I've said: she's also an awful writer


Yes, she is.  I was agreeing with you.
 
Well then 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 21:17
I was hoping for a night with Kari Byron but chocolate milk works I guess
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 21:23
Keep your grubby mitts away from my ladies, buster!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 21:41
lol you wish
When I heard she was married I died a little bit. We had the inside scoop when Grant came to my campus because basically his flight was delayed or some sh*t and he was killing time near the airportLOL There were bloopers shown of inappropriate convos at least < / 3
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 21:46
Had the same feeling but, hey, divorces happen all the time.  Got to think positively, right


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 21:58
That's the spirit 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 22:41
Oh man, I've been staring at that middle picture in MoM's sig for months wondering who it was. I never recognized her as Kari Byron.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2012 at 23:50

Right to left: Emma Watson, Carrie Keagan, Kari Byron, Alison Brie, Carly Foulkes, Scarlett Johansson



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