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Topic: Piano beginner question
Posted: November 17 2012 at 06:01

It was just so pretty and its a Mellotron! So nice.

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Posted: November 17 2012 at 05:46

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No, it won't damage your hands and I don't think it would negatively impact your ability to learn on a real piano. Go ahead and play around on what you have until you can get the real thing.

That's it! Thank you.

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Posted: November 16 2012 at 23:39

You need this as a beginner

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Posted: November 16 2012 at 22:28

No, it won't damage your hands and I don't think it would negatively impact your ability to learn on a real piano. Go ahead and play around on what you have until you can get the real thing.

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Posted: November 16 2012 at 16:50

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Uhmm... I'm having the same thoughts in these days.. Do you think practicing on a completely non-weighted keyboard for some months would represent a serious problem?

Yes, I think so, mainly because it would be a waste of time. The skills you gain from playing on a non-weighted keyboard do not translate well to a real piano.

You're right, but I'm not gonna replace a real piano with a keyboard. The point is: assume I could get myself a real piano and private lessons in january. If I play my non-weighted key (that I already own) in the meanwhile, would it represent a permanent damage to my hands (no matter if it's wasted time, it would be just amusement). I say this because I just can't afford a good piano right now and I have to wait a bit Big smile

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Posted: November 16 2012 at 13:50

Ytse_Jam wrote:

Uhmm... I'm having the same thoughts in these days.. Do you think practicing on a completely non-weighted keyboard for some months would represent a serious problem?

Yes, I think so, mainly because it would be a waste of time. The skills you gain from playing on a non-weighted keyboard do not translate well to a real piano.

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Posted: November 16 2012 at 13:48

Uhmm... I'm having the same thoughts in these days.. Do you think practicing on a completely non-weighted keyboard for some months would represent a serious problem?

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Posted: October 15 2012 at 09:17

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with a subscription I can play there as much as I want, and it includes a piano lesson once a week.

This looks like a good idea right there

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Posted: October 15 2012 at 07:43

I don't think I'll buy an acoustic piano for home, maybe further down the road when I finish my degree and my financial status(and my piano skills, hopefully) improves.

If I'll ever want to play an acoustic piano, I'll just get a subscription in a local conservatory and play there, I even have one right next to my place with excellent pianos in several rooms, with a subscription I can play there as much as I want, and it includes a piano lesson once a week.

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Posted: October 15 2012 at 05:11

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Grand pianos actually have a wider dynamic response range, so it is possible to play them more quietly than an upright.

Not sure they can get quieter than uprights... they sure can get louder though.

Also, please remember the initial subject. It is not whether a digital keyboard can full replace a piano, but rather what instrument to get when you want to START LEARNING the piano.

A real piano being the obvious answer, it's the 'alternative' solutions that are of interest.

In other terms, which blow up doll to get...

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Posted: October 13 2012 at 11:54

Compeletly true!

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Posted: October 13 2012 at 08:23

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Playing a digital simulation of a piano is a bit like having sex with a blow up rubber doll. Better that nothing, yes, but a far cry from the real thing. At least a Rhodes or a Wurlitzer are living, breathing real instruments, whatever their faults. When you are learning, you need to be inspired by the sound and feel of the instrument. For me at least, digital keyboards are a damp squib.

I rather enjoy the comparison in this analogy. Funny stuff, but true. Nice one.

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Posted: October 13 2012 at 08:03

^ an informative analogy certainly which I'm surprised Steinway haven't incorporated into their advertising LOL

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 15:18

Playing a digital simulation of a piano is a bit like having sex with a blow up rubber doll. Better that nothing, yes, but a far cry from the real thing. At least a Rhodes or a Wurlitzer are living, breathing real instruments, whatever their faults. When you are learning, you need to be inspired by the sound and feel of the instrument. For me at least, digital keyboards are a damp squib.

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 01:39

if its strictly for lesson practice then yes. Other than that however, its simply garbage in a respectful way.

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 01:16

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Posted: October 11 2012 at 15:45

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I found things like Roland FP-4 for 3000 NIS(~750$), maybe I'll buy something in that scale in a few months from now.

When I looked for stage pianos many years ago I really liked the touch feeling of Roland FP-5. The keys werent too heavy but felt natural. Maybe FP-4 has the same touch.

I ended up buying a MIDI keyboard , CME UF8, 88 keys, fully weighted with hammer action. And I used it with a sample library on the computer to practise piano (currently I have access to a real piano though). The dynamic control isn't good with the UF8 keyboard though, something wrong wth the MIDI control probably.

But hammer action is good to have. Semi-weighted keys have a really bad feeling from my experiences. Practising on a regular synth keyboard is probably not the ideal thing if playing classical music because you are building up individual strength and dynamic control in the fingers. The weight and feeling of real piano keys is part of developing the musical approach to the instrument.

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Posted: October 11 2012 at 12:43

Grand pianos actually have a wider dynamic response range, so it is possible to play them more quietly than an upright.