Political discussion thread

The only important vote to be cast today would be one for Gary Johnson.  If he breaks the 5% mark nationally the libertarian party will gain ballot access and funding equal to that of the uniparty.  At this point in time, they spend half of their money trying to maintain ballot access from scumpublican challenges.  A vote for Romney or Obama essentially changes nothing and deems your vote meaningless.  That said, I would rather see an Obama re-election because maybe, just maybe, it can set in motion the changes that need to be made within the republican party.  A Romney election crushes the good parts of the tea party and any prayer of libertarian influence within the party for at least 5 years while also assuring that when the current system melts down (Mittens sure as hell ain't stopping what's coming) that capitalism is incorrectly blamed (the media would be more than happy to paint corporatist Mittens as some friend to capitalism).  If Obama wins we lose another 4 years, if Romney wins we're liable to lose all hope that a national election will ever mean anything again.  It saddens me to, once again (or for the first time), see so many go spineless into this election day falling for the age old script that your vote only matters if you agree to forgo principle and submit to one of two colors representing the same evils.

10.000 $ may seem a bit more if you got 375$ at the account, than it does if you got 10.000.000 $ 

Edited by tamijo - November 06 2012 at 08:41

thellama73 wrote: And how do you think your boss decides how much to pay you? It is not based on whim, but based on the value he believes you bring to the companies. Companies cannot afford to pay people more than they produce. If they did, they would go out of business.

They can't afford to pay the entirety of their employees more than they produce in aggregate. They can, however, overpay certain people and underpay others so that it evens out. Not to mention that they can afford to pay people less than they produce in general. Which is what they have to do, otherwise they wouldn't be making any profit.

HarbouringTheSoul wrote: thellama73 wrote: Why is it unfair that they also get the best medical care, since they have done the most for others? Wal-Mart has made life better for many times more people than Mother Theresa ever did. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did more to make the world a better place than Gandhi (whom I hate, but that's another topic for later.) Because what this implies is that the health and even life of some people is worth more than that of others.

No it doesn't. It implies that some types medical care (not synonymous with health or life) are worth more than others.
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In the case of the hypothetical kidney transplant we're talking, it is very well synonymous to health, and in some cases life. If there were a rich guy and a poor guy with a life-threatening liver condition, but only one kidney to transplant, would you give it to the rich guy on the basis that he has "contributed more to society"?

The T wrote: Thanks everybody . I will vote for Romney. Sadly I think Gary Johnson has some good ideas (most actually) but he's not a serious candidate, not only in chances of winning but in everything. He's a clown. He's no Ron Paul.

stonebeard wrote: smartpatrol wrote: JJLehto wrote: thellama73 wrote: JJLehto wrote: One last shot before I go to bed What are you drinking shots of? Can I have one? Double shot of liberty and peace? Where did you find Gary Johnson juice? Do they sell it somewhere? You can get it at NeverGonnaHappen-Mart.

Ah yes...the "need" to vote for a "realistic" candidate. Even some hardcore limited governemnt folk I know can't break the habit and are going Romney (what a joke). Likewise, hardcore liberals that cave and go Democrat...

My problem is that I never have any passion for writing. Whenever I do it it seems like more of a chore than a form of expression.

^His ideas are ok, but I don't see him as a leader even in his own household, much less as a leader of a government of a proper state or country . And sorry but a president has to be able to lead, even if only not to do sh*t.

I really like him. I'm like a f**king fan boy. It may just be the rush of finding a candidate that shares my political ideologies, though. 

Thanks everybody . I will vote for Romney. Sadly I think Gary Johnson has some good ideas (most actually) but he's not a serious candidate, not only in chances of winning but in everything. He's a clown. He's no Ron Paul.

Epignosis wrote: The T wrote: Well, today I will cast my first vote in a presidential election as an American. Too bad it will be a losing vote... Way to go, T!

Congratulations, Teo! I am proud to be able to call you my fellow countryman.