The Year of Punk!

^I meant that I'm not mainly trying to come across as less of an insulting elitist, just trying to clear things up. And it wasn't meant towards everyone, only Dark Elf who clearly has a problem with my attitude, or rather think I have an attitude problem. And its true I sometimes do. 

Edited by Saperlipopette! - October 24 2012 at 04:11

He does.  Read the OP.   He likes post punk and new wave but not punk, the quintessential.

lol

And what about grumbling that you shouldn't be blamed for such-and-such?  You have to cop whatever you get for your comments, sorry.  You are partly correct; you didn't specifically call any album crap in the OP but your subsequent comments seem to have aggravated the problem rather than address it.   Now I am not going to post your comments individually at different parts of the thread and confront you with them.  Since you fancy yourself so intelligent as to know what the historical position on 1977 is going to be in the future, I am sure reading and comprehending your own comments cannot be very difficult for you.

Oh, that's what you said about THOSE albums.  There's a lot of other things you have said in the thread which may shape reactions to what you say, much more so actually.  You know where to look for them, they are your posts.  You have defended your stand on them repeatedly as well.  I am not criticizing your stand per se, I just pointed out the hilarious inconsistency of seeking approval for your favourite albums from the same everyman that you mercilessly bash.   All I am saying is there is no point complaining people should have read this post first or that one later, blah blah.   It was you who wrote it, now face the music.   

I have racked up the more provocative parts of your comments a hundred times by now in this thread but since you insist on pretending to be unable to read them, here we go again:

Saperlipopette! wrote: Normal people will obviously always prefer crap, so everyman will always think that the most famous or catchiest equals best

Saperlipopette! wrote: The (hopefully dying) rock consensus made by uniformed fans and journalists is what bothers me.

Saperlipopette! wrote: Punk is now more looked upon as hits for kids and nothing anyone should take seriously

And from the OP...

Saperlipopette! wrote: that these are the truly essential albums of year zero.

Basically, your posts are full of the no true scotsman fallacy and "everybody who doesn't share my premise is a stupid, everyday, normal man" seems to be your premise.   You are free to believe so if you want to, but you cannot complain that people repeatedly keep reacting to such comments...for they well would.  

And...




Edited by rogerthat - October 24 2012 at 05:03

Saperlipopette! wrote: ^The fact that you think these generalisations are worse is beside the point. Its my own ugly generalisations about everyman, yes. But that was not waht my reaction to Dark Elf's post was about.

Dark Elf's post was out of line but was a reaction to a condescending OP.   However, there was nothing in his comment to provoke your thoughts on the everyman.   You did that of your own accord.  Don't try to make it appear now as if you were simply reacting to what was being dished out to you.   Several times in this thread, you have made lofty generalisations without provocation.

^Christ! You can be worse at generalising than myself you know, and you you do it by simplyfying other people's opinions. Whenever I write mostly, mainly, sometimes, often... you just ignore it and recreate it into something absolute. You honestly don't believe that its possible to find out what "mainly" people listen to?

Edited by Saperlipopette! - October 24 2012 at 05:37

Saperlipopette! wrote: ^Christ! You can be worse at generalising than myself you know, and you you do it by simplyfying other people's opinions. Whenever I write mostly, mainly, sometimes, often and recreate it into something absolute.

Oh, no, the problem is you said mostly in one place but already used the absolute in another.  Since you love spoonfeeding, here you go again (and it's not so far down the thread that I already confronted you with your own words once):

Saperlipopette! wrote: Normal people will obviously always prefer crap

Sorry, baby....you like crap, I hope you do know what you like.   I think it would greatly help this thread if you could remember what you wrote and owned up to it instead of remaining in denial until you run out of options.

I gave him the opportunity once to adjust.  He got all sarcastic on me and tried to pretend he had never said anything like that.   I still resisted but he asked for it a second time, so I obliged.  His denial is pretty brazen.