Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

zumacraig wrote: okay dudes how about top 5 non-prog albums...

Siloportem wrote: Let's have a go at this (in no particular order): Dire Straits - brothers in arms Joe Satriani - engines of creation Paul Simon - graceland Massive Attack - mezzanine Simple Minds - new gold dream (81/82/83/84) And just so I don't lose any credit here (in a particular order) 1 space revolver 2 unfold the future 3 / 4 the sum of no evil 3 / 4 banks of eden 5 stardust we are

Have not heard Anima Mundi, might have to check them out.  I have only one Nexus album, I guess the previous one to their new one.  It sounds good, but just does very little for me.  I will agree that the hammond sound is awesome and the best feature of the album, but the tunes don't move me at all.

zuma, that alternate artwork just shows they picked the right one for the cover   Though I agree it is cool, but probably better for a metal or post rock band.

As for non-prog, I don't listen to the stuff much anymore.  One album I think everyone should hear is The Scorpions "Lonesome Crow".  Of course, it actually could be called prog related, since its got long tracks and strange effects.  Anyway, if you think you know the Scorpions but haven't heard that album, then think again.

Aside from that, I'm also one that still enjoys Led Zep, but find most of their stuff I've heard way too many times to really want to hear it again.  I do enjoy some bluegrass every now and then, but couldn't really name any groups specifically (and, of course, I really like progressive grass, but I guess that's technically prog anyway).  Also love a lot of celtic and Irish folk music, but couldn't name any groups (usually catch the "fresh aire" program on our public radio on the weekends......some of that stuff is downright proggy).  As mentioned, Grateful Dead never get old for me, but I have to be in the mood.  Other "jam bands" don't do much for me, though Umphrey's kicks ass in a live setting.  But again, they are on the archives.


Edited by infandous - October 08 2012 at 07:38

Ytse_Jam wrote: ^ I like Scorpions a lot, but I never gave Lonesome Crow a listen. I must check it in the next days...

Check it out, just don't expect it to sound anything like their other albums (aside from the vocals).  It features Michael Schenker on guitar, tearing it up at 16 years old!  Great stuff.  Apparently, the bassist and drummer for that one album were jazz session guys

M27Barney wrote: It's Nice to see that people on this thread are grooving to Anima Mundi - Cubas answer to the Symphonic Masters of North America & Europe - and derivative it most certainly is - but such gradiose soaring themes - I love "The way" - quite possibly a CD already in my top 20 of all time.....It's just superb from the first miniute to the last...it's a MUST for any symphonic prog collection - if you haven't got it BUY IT NOW!!!

Barney, derivative of what? I don't have much of the symphonic classics (couple of Yes & Genesis, no ELP). It's probably the reason why I don't get the Flower Kings hate either?

I read a (dutch) interview with Anima Mundi where they talk about the difficulties they had recording their first album. The instruments aren't even available in Cuba! Rock music is/was considered to be a very nasty, western influence!

Siloportem wrote: M27Barney wrote: It's Nice to see that people on this thread are grooving to Anima Mundi - Cubas answer to the Symphonic Masters of North America & Europe - and derivative it most certainly is - but such gradiose soaring themes - I love "The way" - quite possibly a CD already in my top 20 of all time.....It's just superb from the first miniute to the last...it's a MUST for any symphonic prog collection - if you haven't got it BUY IT NOW!!! Barney, derivative of what? I don't have much of the symphonic classics (couple of Yes & Genesis, no ELP). It's probably the reason why I don't get the Flower Kings hate either? I read a (dutch) interview with Anima Mundi where they talk about the difficulties they had recording their first album. The instruments aren't even available in Cuba! Rock music is/was considered to be a very nasty, western influence!

If you have as much symphonic prog as I have from 1970-right up to today - you can see that A.M have based their music on Genesis/Yes/Floyd/Camel/ELP - and it is derivative but not out-right plagiarism - the guitar parts of The Way are straight from the Hackett Album spectral Morning...and a lot of the album is also very much like Voyage of the Acolyte with ELP/Yes/Camel - Derivative is not a derogatory word here is is used in a complimentary way - I wouldn't like the album anywhere as near as much as I do if it wasn't for the mid 70's feel the music positively exudes.....

infandous wrote: Have not heard Anima Mundi, might have to check them out.  I have only one Nexus album, I guess the previous one to their new one.  It sounds good, but just does very little for me.  I will agree that the hammond sound is awesome and the best feature of the album, but the tunes don't move me at all. zuma, that alternate artwork just shows they picked the right one for the cover   Though I agree it is cool, but probably better for a metal or post rock band. As for non-prog, I don't listen to the stuff much anymore.  One album I think everyone should hear is The Scorpions "Lonesome Crow".  Of course, it actually could be called prog related, since its got long tracks and strange effects.  Anyway, if you think you know the Scorpions but haven't heard that album, then think again. Aside from that, I'm also one that still enjoys Led Zep, but find most of their stuff I've heard way too many times to really want to hear it again.  I do enjoy some bluegrass every now and then, but couldn't really name any groups specifically (and, of course, I really like progressive grass, but I guess that's technically prog anyway).  Also love a lot of celtic and Irish folk music, but couldn't name any groups (usually catch the "fresh aire" program on our public radio on the weekends......some of that stuff is downright proggy).  As mentioned, Grateful Dead never get old for me, but I have to be in the mood.  Other "jam bands" don't do much for me, though Umphrey's kicks ass in a live setting.  But again, they are on the archives.

zumacraig wrote: just got back from seeing pat metheny tonight.  awesome show!  any fans?

yes, for sure.  I have been a fan since American Garage.  I saw PMG in 2005, he and Mays were mind blowing.

How bout a brief review of the show?

 

dennismoore wrote: zumacraig wrote: just got back from seeing pat metheny tonight.  awesome show!  any fans? yes, for sure.  I have been a fan since American Garage.  I saw PMG in 2005, he and Mays were mind blowing. How bout a brief review of the show?