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Poll Question: Which version do you prefer?
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    Posted: October 06 2012 at 13:00
Both these bands are known for honouring (butchering?) the classics. Which version of this Ginastera piece do you like more?
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I've always thought that Toccata sounds like a salad....
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Jaga Jazzist anyone?
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How about Sky?

anyway...elp
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Jaga Jazzist anyone?

Great but completely different song. Never heard the Sky version.
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Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Jaga Jazzist anyone?

Great but completely different song. Never heard the Sky version.

I still prefer it. Tongue
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Only just heard the Delta version, so I might have needed a little more getting used to it, but I like better the ELP one. The Delta one, even though it is somewhat heavier, isn't nearly as Crazy as ELP's one.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

 The Delta one, even though it is somewhat heavier, isn't nearly as Crazy as ELP's one.

Yeah, the MD version is more tame in comparison.
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Voted for ELP in the end. What a salad!
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ELP adapted Ginastera. Mekong Delta copied ELP's version. Palmer's drumming is far better and ELP has a far more original take on the...ummm....original.
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There's also a version on the Magna Carta tribute featuring Jordan Rudess and Japanese outfit Gerard also give a suitable battering on the Keyboards Triangle tribute album.
ELP's version is one of my favourite things by ELP and any prog band for that matter. It has a delicious production particularly the percussion sounds that are embedded deep in the mix on the quieter moments. Its a work of art imo.Ginastera loved it of course and remarked 'terrible , terrible' when he first heard it during a lunch at his house with Keith Emerson. Ginastera's wife thankfully spoke some English and pointed out to a slightly perplexed Keith Emerson that he was complimenting it!
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

ELP adapted Ginastera. Mekong Delta copied ELP's version. Palmer's drumming is far better and ELP has a far more original take on the...ummm....original.

Exactly!
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I think I read somewhere that only one album of Ginastera's music had ever been released in the UK. ELP doing a version of it was not exactly meddling with the classics. Any other version by a band was always going to a copy of the ELP adapation. Gerards is also very similar to Mekong Delta although at least it has some rabid drumming thats a lot of fun. No Carl Palmer but I once saw the guy live with Ars Nova in London when he broke the gong for a Pink Floyd tribute band. Perhaps one of the funniest and most memorable things I ever saw at a live show.
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Ginastera's.

LOL !

Ouch

ELP of course.


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ELP or Sky !
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Points: 5012 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2012 at 15:04
The ELP version for sure. The Mekong Delta version is terrible, sorry. Sick 
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Points: 28080 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2012 at 01:39
Originally posted by digdug digdug wrote:

ELP or Sky !
It would have made a more interesting poll for sure. I like Sky's Toccata although of course that was Bach not Ginastera.
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ELP should have covered Bach's Toccata, it just screams to be played by them.
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