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Tapfret
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8581 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:40 | ||||||||||||
Yes, ONLY on this site. |
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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:42 | ||||||||||||
I do like it when things take a turn for the ridiculous, and people feel comfortable to let their whims run free.
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 04 2012 at 21:06 | ||||||||||||
Ahhh whiskey In a jar...Metallica cover. Booooo urns!!! |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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thellama73
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Posted: October 04 2012 at 21:17 | ||||||||||||
-Are they saying "boo?" -Um, no sir. They're saying "boo-urns!" |
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topographicbroadways
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 20 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5575 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 22:24 | ||||||||||||
The Top 100 List sucks?
In other news the United States is invading Iraq |
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The T
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Posted: October 04 2012 at 23:21 | ||||||||||||
Every ELP thread degenerates into a DT thread. I'm seeing a connection here.
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smartpatrol
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Posted: October 04 2012 at 23:22 | ||||||||||||
Best find a surgeon
Come cut me open Best find a surgeon Come cut me open |
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 04:09 | ||||||||||||
Two stars? |
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Dean
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 04:36 | ||||||||||||
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What?
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 06:54 | ||||||||||||
Half of 1 star! So 0.5. Yup. That's fair. Band is cancer to my ears. |
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Logan
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 07:22 | ||||||||||||
It may have had somewthing to do with those albums all being considered somewhat better than Dream Theater, or perhaps I just posted it because Ken and Joyce told me, "Do it for Heino"?
Seriously, I just tampered with the list that DTguitarfan gave. As for the rhyme or reason for why I thought of those particular albums, most of them have poor ratings, some I think funny, some relevant like that Three Tenors with Labrie one to the DT discussion (that is a low rated album that I have heard and found very cheesy, no pun intended at all that time), and the centrepiece is Heino. Edited by Logan - October 05 2012 at 07:24 |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 07:30 | ||||||||||||
It's funny cuz it's true.
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Ytse_Jam
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 08:03 | ||||||||||||
Honestly, who cares about charts? In this top 100 there are albums rated in the first 20 that I loathe, and albums I love rated over #70, so what? It happens with all lists in the world, not a big deal...
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HolyMoly
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 08:21 | ||||||||||||
I can see Ken as a Prog Folk artist. He's got the mustache for it.
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tamijo
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 08:30 | ||||||||||||
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Next time you say DT haters - you force me into a responce. Eg. listning to all they did, and review it all at once, when im at the point of puking, and will def. not be able to find more than 2 stars each.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Padraic
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 08:33 | ||||||||||||
I don't think you can resist.
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: October 05 2012 at 08:46 | ||||||||||||
you were right Glad I caught Greg's post, too
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Logan
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 09:09 | ||||||||||||
True about Ken -- I think I might propose him to Prog Folk based on his moustache. I don't know why I got all ridiculous with Joyce who I now see as a Zeuhl or Henry Cow related artist.
Edited by Logan - October 05 2012 at 09:11 |
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: October 05 2012 at 09:27 | ||||||||||||
First Heino, now Ken. Logan, you are my new hero!
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Warthur
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 06 2008 Location: London, UK Status: Offline Points: 617 |
Posted: October 05 2012 at 11:40 | ||||||||||||
My thoughts on the discussion so far: - By and large I think the chart system works. There's a few releases on there where I think "maaaaan, what the hell is wrong with people that they rate it that high?" and a few releases that I'd be pleased to see on there that aren't, but whatever the current status of the top 100 list is at least like (and usually love) *FAR* more albums on it than I dislike. As a collective we have pretty good tastes, to be honest. As far as the weighting system goes, I think the rationale behind it is a pretty good one - there's no good reason why anyone should give more weight to the opinion of a drive-by rating than a fully-considered review. - As far as ELP go I have a love/hate relationship with them. I dig their debut and Trilogy, love the first side of Tarkus but roll my eyes at the second side, and really don't like Brain Salad Surgery or anything that followed it at all. On the whole I think their placing on the current top 100 is more or less fair; of the really BIG prog names of the 1970s, I consider them to be the least consistent in terms of album quality, and I genuinely think they've dated a lot worse than their contemporaries have; I've noted that a lot of people of my prog generation or younger tend to dig ELP less than the old guard do, at any rate, whereas I fully expect Yes and Genesis and King Crimson to retain a strong fanbase for decades to come and a "Pink Floyd phase" has pretty much become a rite of passage for a lot of teenagers into music. ;) That said, their first album does seem to be fairly impressive to the development of the scene when you put it next to the other releases of 1970 and earlier so it's probably fair that it's in the top 100. On the other hand, it's got 42 years' worth of new music to compete with and "it sounded really incredible at the time" doesn't really cut it because new listeners don't have time machines and aren't going to be able to experience ELP the way they were received in 1970, so the fact that it isn't very high on the top 100 also seems appropriate to me. (As for the idea that Brain Salad Surgery - or even Trilogy - qualify as ELP's all-time "classic" album... Benny the Bouncer. "Someone get me a ladder!" The Sheriff. 'nuff said: comedy ELP is the worst ELP.) - I'm not worried about the phenomenon of the latest hot album appearing in the chart, hovering about for a while, and then plummeting down to earth. In general if an album gets that much of a good reaction from the community it deserves its time in the sun, and if it disappears from the chart then, well, the problem's solved itself and a new album of the moment can take its place, no worries. And if it sticks around... then a new release just beat a bunch of 1970s old guard classics, and that's something we should be celebrating rather than griping about. (Personally I think the new BBT release fully deserves its spot, it's one of the most impressive albums I've heard for ages.) - Dream Theater: so, if I am to understand right, Dream Theater have to work hard to get a high place in the charts because there are a punch of people who do not like their music and give their albums low ratings? I am shocked. SHOCKED. Clearly the ratings below three stars need to be disabled on Dream Theater releases so they can get a fair chance. ;) Seriously, though, if a lot of people dislike Dream Theater that's not any sort of proof of unfair persecution; it could equally be evidence that there are a lot of folk who *genuinely don't like Dream Theater's sound*. That doesn't mean they're wrong or DT are bad or their fans are bad, it just means that their sound doesn't have an appeal as broad as that of, say, Genesis or Pink Floyd. - I like Marmite. :D
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