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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:54
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here?

Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site.  Go ahead, check it out.  Also, check this out:
http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1500&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=0&y=0#list

That's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes.  This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts.  The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts.


Geoff, you have to take into account the possibility that different people have different understanding of the words "low" and "lowest". C'mon, the 4.2-4.3 range isn't that bad. And again, you are taking the list too seriously. The math fails the list (no offense to the authors of the idea for this list).


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Points: 32552 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:46
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here?

Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site.  Go ahead, check it out.  Also, check this out:
http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1500&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=0&y=0#list

That's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes.  This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts.  The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts.



You know, you do an awful lot of carping about Dream Theater's place in the chart for someone who only rates their albums.  A review carries ten times the weight of a rating only.

5 starsDREAM THEATER Dream Theater - Score: 20th Anniversary World Tour Live with the Octavarium Orchestra(rating only)
3 starsDREAM THEATER Chaos In Motion 2007/2008(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Live at Budokan(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER When Dream And Day Reunite [Official Bootleg](rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Metropolis 2000: Scenes From New York(rating only)
4 starsDREAM THEATER Live at The Marquee(rating only)
4 starsDREAM THEATER Once In A Livetime(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Score: 20th Anniversary World Tour Live with the Octavarium Orchestra(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Live at Budokan(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Live Scenes From New York(rating only)
3 starsDREAM THEATER Train Of Thought(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Octavarium(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Systematic Chaos(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Black Clouds & Silver Linings(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory | review
3 starsDREAM THEATER Falling Into Infinity(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Awake(rating only)
5 starsDREAM THEATER Images And Words | review
5 starsDREAM THEATER When Dream And Day Unite (rating only)
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Points: 32552 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:43
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

You can't compare Dream Theater with anyone because they are the bestest of all genres and all the rest of the bands are clones.





Yes yes!!!

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Points: 1708 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:29
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here?

Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site.  Go ahead, check it out.  Also, check this out:
http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1500&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=0&y=0#list

That's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes.  This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts.  The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts.
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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:08
LOL

Oh yes the time before the Brie... I remember it fondly. We literally submersed ourselves in cheddar and Roqueforts for days on end... 
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Points: 37188 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:04
Before Dream Theater there was only Proto Dream Theater, and after Dream Theater, merely Post Dream Theater and Dream Theater Related.  DT is the pivotal point of the time-space continuum (Australian Aboriginals refer to it as the DreamTime, and in ancient times prophesied the coming of the Falling Angel of Cheese  See THIS and THIS).

Really there are only two major Prog eras: BDT (before Dream Theater) and ADT (Anno Dream Theater) with some subsets which entail changing personnel such as Anno Dominici (In the Year of our Dream, 1 AD) which is also referred to as BlB (Before La Brie).
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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:02
To the OP:
Do yourself a favour and dismiss anything to do with "greatest", "best", "top" and "lists". 
I stopped looking at the top 100 a couple of years ago, and was actually only reminded of it here recently because of some punk kid in Mexico trying to champion some Yes tribute albums. 
The more music you stumble across, the harder and more abstract these things tend to get. Do you love the exact same kind of music now as you did back in high school? Does some music work better in the morning and is therefore only really great at that time of day? I used to adore Boney M and now I don't - does that mean that I've committed treason against my own true self? All this non-sense is of course beside the point, but merely there to show you guys that I can link words together to form sentences of sub par quality - and maybe illustrate that the notion of a single list that's supposed to equate some kind of factual merit hierarchy, is utopian and furthermore stupid as hell. Why? Because people's tastes change and listening habits change as well. What may have seemed like noise a few years ago, may now hit you right in the gizzard. Conversely, an album like Close to the Edge may have started out as a real humdinger destined to reside alone at the top of tops for eternity - only you find yourself rather bored by it, after you suddenly discovered Krautrock...
Like Dean mentioned, the list is essentially Just For Fun.


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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

You can't compare Dream Theater with anyone because they are the bestest of all genres and all the rest of the bands are clones.





Yes yes!!!

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Points: 7865 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:41
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

You can't compare Dream Theater with anyone because they are the bestest of all genres and all the rest of the bands are clones.





Yes yes!!!
Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Ok. Why the f**k do people hate on Dream Theater so much? I really don't get it. Dream Theater are thier own unique, creative force. I think other people and bands alike are jealous of the virtuoso talent
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Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here?
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You can't compare Dream Theater with anyone because they are the bestest of all genres and all the rest of the bands are clones.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Monty Python - Now thats when the thread DOES get funny !!!
The top 100 - should be by genre - you can't really compare 1970's Genesis - with Dream Theater but you could compare it with The Flower Kings....By Genre the poll would be more representative.....
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition....our chief weapons are.....
 
 
 
All Time Top Progressive Metal Chart (aka as the What the *%$#@! are Riverside and PoS doing in the All Time Top Dream Theatre Chart!! Grrrh! those facists at Porg Anchovies really really got it in for Dreams Thaeter GrrrH! Angry)
 
 
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Points: 7865 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:22
Yup. This is fun. ;). Anyone freaked out watching old genesis videos and seeing Phil Collins with hair?? Lol. Weird.
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Monty Python - Now thats when the thread DOES get funny !!!
The top 100 - should be by genre - you can't really compare 1970's Genesis - with Dream Theater but you could compare it with The Flower Kings....By Genre the poll would be more representative.....
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition....our chief weapons are.....
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It sounds dreadfully tedious to me, but to each his or her own fun.

By the way, I'd quite like to see a  new forum called Not Quite Fun or Not As Fun As You Might Like for Just for Fun type topics that fail to be fun, just plain aren't much fun, or may be taken rather too seriously....


I really like the idea of a "Not Fun At All" forum.


Good idea.  It would, however, be difficult to consistently maintain the "not fun at all" integrity of said forum.  Failure to comply with the no fun rules could entail serious punishment, but the punishing may be too much fun. So, perhaps in to order to uphold the forum's "no fun" purity, only certain PA members (we know who they are even if they don't) who are known to consistently be no fun at all should be allowed to post in the forum.


New admin for said forum?
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It sounds dreadfully tedious to me, but to each his or her own fun.

By the way, I'd quite like to see a  new forum called Not Quite Fun or Not As Fun As You Might Like for Just for Fun type topics that fail to be fun, just plain aren't much fun, or may be taken rather too seriously....


I really like the idea of a "Not Fun At All" forum.


Good idea.  It would, however, be difficult to consistently maintain the "not fun at all" integrity of said forum.  Failure to comply with the no fun rules could entail serious punishment, but the punishing may be too much fun. So, perhaps in to order to uphold the forum's "no fun" purity, only certain PA members (we know who they are even if they don't) who are known to consistently be no fun at all should be allowed to post in the forum.
Would one get banned for using LOL in the "No Fun At All" forum?
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Points: 37188 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 14:59
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It sounds dreadfully tedious to me, but to each his or her own fun.

By the way, I'd quite like to see a  new forum called Not Quite Fun or Not As Fun As You Might Like for Just for Fun type topics that fail to be fun, just plain aren't much fun, or may be taken rather too seriously....


I really like the idea of a "Not Fun At All" forum.


Good idea.  It would, however, be difficult to consistently maintain the "not fun at all" integrity of said forum.  Failure to comply with the no fun rules could entail serious punishment, but the punishing may be too much fun. So, perhaps in to order to uphold the forum's "no fun" purity, only certain PA members (we know who they are even if they don't) who are known to consistently be no fun at all should be allowed to post in the forum.
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 14:46
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It sounds dreadfully tedious to me, but to each his or her own fun.

By the way, I'd quite like to see a  new forum called Not Quite Fun or Not As Fun As You Might Like for Just for Fun type topics that fail to be fun, just plain aren't much fun, or may be taken rather too seriously....


I really like the idea of a "Not Fun At All" forum.
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