Favourite Dream Theater Epic?

chopped liver?? Certainly not!! Fates and queens are 2 of my most favourite and beloved bands and they are both incredible contemporaries with DT in the prog metal genre. Speaking fundamentally though, the level of musicianship is greater in DT music and the major innovation that DT pocesses with in the prog metal scene is the layered, complex sound arrangements that are really a cut above than any other band in progressive metal. That's one thing that I think is very special that DT has. Taking thrash metal, tech/extream and classic rock all into one creative unbelievable force of sound is DT's Paton. Now keep in mind, every prog band has those creative forces(bands) that inspire thier creativity and certainly DT's is the RUSH's and QUEENSRŸCHE's of this world. Let's make no mistake, DT pocesses innovation, brilliance, virtuaso and technical song arrangements. I feel that SCENES OF A MEMORY really typlifies this and was a defining moment in DT's career. That album takes prog metal to new and interesting heights and is still relevant today.

progbethyname wrote: ^ still haven't told me your band?

Edited by JS19 - September 28 2012 at 03:07

HarbouringTheSoul wrote: I think it does. I don't care about love triangles and reincarnation by default, so the story has to have something else that makes me interested in those topics. Like, you know, a central message. Or some kind of unique insight on the matter. Don't get me wrong, I don't expect a philosophical treatise. Simple lyrics are fine, and as long as the music is good, I can ignore even the worst batch of lyrics (and these are far from the worst). But if you go the extra mile of making a concept album and placing so much emphasis on the lyrics, you better have something to say.

HarbouringTheSoul wrote: I don't see the irony. First of all, what is pragmatic about lyrics that have no deeper meaning? And where is the connection between the 'no emotion' accusation and the 'no deeper meaning' accusation? Are lyrics with a deeper meaning less emotional? Even if there were a connection, I don't belong to the group who says Dream Theater play without emotion anyway, so if you're trying to insinuate that what I'm saying is somehow inconsistent or contradicts itself, that's not the case. Just because I criticize a band for something, that doesn't mean I agree with all other criticisms against them.

I think the idea just a love story would have been quite bland. Adding the reincarnation theme gave it a bit of an interesting twist. It's no Operation:Mindcrime, but I don't get the "you better have something to say" comment. Can't a story just be a good story without it having "something to say?"

As far as the 'no emotion' and 'no deeper meaning' comments, that wasn't necessarily directed at you. I've been reading a lot of these negative posts directed at Dream Theater and it is quite disconcerting. I get it. There are some Dream Theater fans who are obnoxious and shove them in your face. That irritates me too. I am far from a fan boy. However they are an extremely rare combination of talent these days and I feel bad for people who can't see that.   No one says you have to like them but to deny their proficiency is utterly ignorant. For example, I am not a Hendrix fan but I will never deny what he did for the guitar. That would be completely ignorant on my part.

I've read some posts claiming that Dream Theater are repetitive and only play unnecessarily complex arragments as fast as they can. This is just purely ignorant....and this is why....

Another Day, Surrounded, Wait for Sleep, Eve, The Silent Man, The Mirror, Lifting Shadows Off a Dream, Space Dye Vest, Don't Look Past Me, You Not Me, Hollow Years, Take Away My Pain, Anna Lee, Strange Deja Vu, Through Her Eyes, One Last Time, The Spirit Carries On, Finally Free, Misunderstood, Disappear, Goodnight Kiss, etc etc..   


You see my frustration...

dtguitarfan wrote: Prog Snob - best to just ignore the idiots.  Believe me, complaining only gives them more strength.  Yeah, there is way too much negativity towards music around here - and it's not just DT.  You just see people hating on DT more because they are the ones selling millions of copies of their album these days (with the only other Prog band that is comparable in sales being Rush).

I am allowed to vent...occasionally.   

If I acted like good little boy, I wouldn't be living up to my name.   

dtguitarfan wrote: Prog Snob - best to just ignore the idiots.  Believe me, complaining only gives them more strength.  Yeah, there is way too much negativity towards music around here - and it's not just DT.  You just see people hating on DT more because they are the ones selling millions of copies of their album these days (with the only other Prog band that is comparable in sales being Rush).

We DT fans band together to stop the idiot storm!!! 😊 well said man. I just got a little frustrated that people were saying dt lacks innovation. Aghhhhhh!

Oh God a DT fan love-in.

Snow Dog wrote: Oh God a DT fan love-in.

Quit complaining and pass the smores.   

Alitare wrote: What the hell did DT bring to the musical world other than breakneck guitar playing speed and unnecessarily complex arrangements?

JS19 wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Oh God a DT fan love-in. I wish I'd had the sense to get out before it was too late

JS19 wrote: Guys, isn't there a DT fan thread on ProgArchives somewhere you can go and take these 'dicussions'? It's rather gumming up a couple of other not-so-related threads (like the drumming one).

Then you should have posted this message in the drumming one and not one entitled Favorite DREAM THEATER Epic?