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^ A few typos there(should stop typing so fast)  - No i'm not into Bearded loonies - that should be DEEP JOY...

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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

 Numbers is quite simply up there with I am the Sun, Garden of Dreams, Stardust we are and Monsters and Men - The FIVE epics to end all epics.

Switch M&M for The Truth Will Set You Free and i agree.
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i really like Banks of Eden.  it's really an album for the fans and the sound is so warm.  i just like the feeling of the entire album.  that's the way i am with my favorite bands.  it's not necessarily the songs (that's a bonus) but the sound of each instrument etc.

i've only heard Sum a few times.  I don't own it.  I need to get it soon.  I really like it...especially that first track intro:)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2012 at 19:12
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Numbers is quite simply up there with I am the Sun, Garden of Dreams, Stardust we are and Monsters and Men - The FIVE epics to end all epics - I want no arguments - no if's of buts - this is THE CANON laid down in the sight of all Flokis old and young = the FIVE books of the Flower Kings Bible - The Pentateuch - if you like
I'm not sure if Numbers is up there with those 4 fantastic tracks - or The Truth Will Set You Free for that matter, but it sure is excellent Wink

Quote Banks of Eden is quite possibly sneaking into No 1 spot - because it has a consistency that cannot be matched by any other CD and that includes the Bonus Disc - WHO'S WITH ME?
I love Banks of Eden but it's only better than TSONE and A&E to my ears Wink

Quote Roine Stolte is not the Messiah - he's just curently the greatest living exponent of the guitar on PLANET EARTH
Agreed!! Big smile

Quote And I'm seeing him live on Sunday - DEPP JOY....
......and I'm seeing him live in about 18 hours in Leamington and possibly in London on Monday as well Big smile 




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dennismoore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2012 at 19:19
Just out of curiosity:

Are we enjoying Banks Of Eden more or less these days?

I know I don't have to remind you guys(at this point in time) to make sure we get enough Chicken Farmer Song
in our diet???Wink

PLUS, dig this:

Guess what the Queen of England(Amazon.co.uk) just sent me?  I took these pictures today...
You guys need to run out right NOW and get a 5.1 system going, you will not regret it.  And... each ELP CD set
only costs around 16 dollars!



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote infocat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2012 at 22:31
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

I have maybe 1200 CDs.  I can only offhand think of one album that I've listened to only twice and may never try again, which is Dune by "HUMI" (Hugh Hopper and Yumi Hara Cawkwell).  Dreadful (not to mention very disappointing!)  Though I shouldn't kid myself, as I probably will try it again some day!

I've definitely had cases of quite disliking an album at first and coming to appreciate it later, so I'm not sure at what point I would really write off an album.

I don't really have a problem with neglecting any CDs, as of about 2 1/2 years ago I started listening to them at work, so I have more trouble figuring out what to listen to that I haven't listened to "recently".

I just noticed this is a Flower Kings appreciation thread I'm writing this in.  My apologies; but they started it!  Tongue

1200? isn''t that just the output of Frank Zappa? Tongue
Seriously - In any large collection (750+) - surely some CD's must never be played again?
I mean if the average lengthof a CD is 40 Mins (and that a lower estimate for prog CD's)
To listen to all 1200 would take 33 1/3 days - 33 1/3 isn't that the LP revolution speed - hey thats CREEPY...
So it wold take over a month to listen to them all - probably considerably more if you have FK's CD's in your collection because I haven't included doubles etc - probably take two months to get through a prog collection of 1200..so you could recycle 6 times a year (if you did nothing else of course).....
Coz I know that even yes - albums, Drama, Tormato, Fragile, yes, yes album - I haven't listed to any of those this century I think......similarly - From Genesis to Revelation, And then..., Duke, Abacab.....

Certainly there are albums I haven't listened to in many years.  (My one Kenny G release, for example!!)  But I imagine I've heard most of my collection at least once in the last few years.  Many a lot more than once!  Even the one's I haven't listened to in years, however, I listened to more often when I first got them.

Only have 2 TFK albums, though...!

I listened to FGtR maybe a month ago and surprised myself by quite enjoying it!  Tongue



Edited by infocat - September 21 2012 at 22:35
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Originally posted by zumacraig zumacraig wrote:


1200? isn''t that just the output of Frank Zappa? Tongue

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LOL  love that quote!  that needs to be in someone's signature.  maybe i'll take it.

i hit about 500 CDs in the early 00s and since have been purging.  if i only like one or two songs and it doesn't have sentimental value, then i put it on the itunes and sell it on ebay.  i've had a few regrets, but usually my gut is right.
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Dennis,

looks like a nice set.  packaging is awesome.

i'm still digging Banks of Eden.  Numbers is great.
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Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

Just out of curiosity:

Are we enjoying Banks Of Eden more or less these days?


I haven't been listening to TFK much lately, but I've been going through related bands like Karmakanic, The Tangent, 3rd World Electric, and been particularly listening to a lot of jazz too. Now recently Neal Morse has been getting heavy rotation, even though I don't think his new album is anywhere near his best. According to my last.fm Banks of Eden has gotten more spins than a couple other TFK albums I've picked up in the last year, so that tells you something.
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So, I am just back from seeing The Flower Kings in Leamington in good old England!!

Furthermore, I met up with Roj and his missus.

Yet again I was blown away by the brilliance of these fabulous musicians. It was just FANTASTIC!!!

Can't wait to see them again in London on Monday!!

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Originally posted by Nov Nov wrote:


So, I am just back from seeing The Flower Kings in Leamington in good old England!!

Furthermore, I met up with Roj and his missus.

Yet again I was blown away by the brilliance of these fabulous musicians. It was just FANTASTIC!!!

Can't wait to see them again in London on Monday!!

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Jolly good show ole boy but....uh....

setlist???

how was the sound???

any show details at all???

inquiring minds want to know
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Anyone going to the Holmfirth gig tonight? I'll be off there in a couple of hours.
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i'm so jealous of you guys!!  i can't think of any other band i'd pay top dollar for these days.  i hope they hit the US at some point ;)
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Honestly, the Flower Kings are one of the greatest bands I've ever heard in my young life, and it's a shame that some people put them down because they are INSPIRED by the prog of the '70s. I really like the sound of Banks of Eden; I think it definitely proves the haters wrong. The truth in the Flower Kings' music is that it grows on you, and soon you realize that there is so much originality behind all that '70s inspiration. The guys have worked really hard on double albums like Stardust We Are, Flower Power, and (my personal favorite) Unfold the Future, and the music includes much more substance than what audiences will initially feel as the "retro" vibe. The Flower Kings are a huge inspiration to ME, and I'd say that any band that ultimately impresses me (despite other people's criticism) must be of musical justice and originality. The Kings gave me truth, and it set me free!! Big smile 
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Hey Prog Drummer Tony, great to hear from you and welcome to the forum.  As you can see, you're not alone in your love for the Flower Kings.

Unfold is one of their best albums, it's a top three for me, but the double album that you didn't mention is my favorite.  For me, Paradox Hotel is their greatest achievement to date.  Their epic symphonic and jazzier albums are excellent, but for me the rock vibe to their music on Paradox is about as good as it gets.

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Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Anyone going to the Holmfirth gig tonight? I'll be off there in a couple of hours.
I was at the gig - stood right at the front of the stage - left edge - i was the tall dude - I reckon I was possibly tallest there - wearing a blue kangol hooded jacket to keep the yorkshire rain off me bonce.
fantastic Gig - started with numbers - played three off BOE - first 2nd and last tracks.....
otther memorable moments - Stardust we are section.....Guitar solo in - "The truth will set you free"
Other tracks - I am a clown in the eyes of the world....
Only gripe - encore of "paradox Hotel" - could have picked a lot of better tracks than that....
Sound - bit heavy on the drums / bass for my linking....but ok on the whole.
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I was at the Leamington Spa gig on saturday and what a fantastic night that was.
 
Firstly it was great to meet NovBeer and have a good chat, though unfortunately the lager was pretty poor.  Fortunately the guinness was much better Wink.  The Assembly Rooms is a great venue but pretty big, capacity I believe is 1000.  I'd say there was about 300-350 in which isn't so bad.
 
The band were superb.  Great sound balance and a killer setlist, though like Rob describes for Holmfirth, we also got Paradox Hotel as the encore, a great song but I Am The Sun would've been better.  The full setlist was something like:-
 
Numbers
For The Love of Gold
Babylon
What If God Is Alone
Stardust We Are (Part 3)
Last Minute On Earth
Eyes of the World
The Truth Will Set You Free
Rising The Imperial 
Paradox Hotel
 
There was also a Jonas/Felix jazzy jam and a brilliant Tomas keyboard solo (great if you like electronic music like me, that isWink).
 
Numbers was amazing, it was a wonderful version of the gorgeous Babylon and TTWSYF was one I was not expecting, truly fabulous.  My highlight though was the Last Min/Eyes combo, played pretty much as on their recent DVD.  I assure you lava is not as hot.
 
The icing on the cake was meeting the band afterwards and what a thoroughly great bunch of guys they are, genuinely appreciative of us, the fans, even more than we are of them.  Even my other half, who is not much of a TFK fan, was bowled over by their freindliness.  Now if only I was a little more tecno savvy and could put some of those piccies on hereOuch.  Ah well.
 
One gripe, NO XL T-SHIRTS!! What Shocked.  Now I'm no Giant Haystacks but I like my shirts comfy, not like a straitjacket so size L was a no-no.  I'd have snapped a couple of those up if they'd had XL without a doubt.
 
Afterwards the pub round the corner was knocking out Ruddles Best at £1.89 a pint and Strongbow for the missus at £1.99 a pint.  £3.88 a round, very useful for a post-gig beverage or 3 Wink.
 
Nov, you're very lucky, 2 TFK gigs in 3 days.  Enjoy tonight!
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

 Numbers is quite simply up there with I am the Sun, Garden of Dreams, Stardust we are and Monsters and Men - The FIVE epics to end all epics.

Switch M&M for The Truth Will Set You Free and i agree.


Needless to say, even switching out M&M for The Truth (which I would definitely do), Numbers wouldn't be in my top 5 epics (it doesn't beat out Love Is The Only Answer or Devil's Playground for me.........but does beat out M&M, and both epics on A&E).

I will eventually pull out Banks of Eden again, give it more tries, but at this point I'm pretty tired of hearing it.  Which is something that hasn't happened to me since A&E.  Of course, as I said before I would still love to hear the material live, as I'm sure (like A&E) I would appreciate it more in that format.

Whoever said Banks was an album for the fans obviously wasn't considering this fan.  In any case, it IS a good album, though only ranks above A&E for me.


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Nov, Nightfly, Rob and Roj, I would have loved to have been there, glad you guys had a great show.
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Twas a mighty Gig - And where else could you get within 3 meters of th band?
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