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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 06:00
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

 
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:


Admit it, you are just cross with me about what I said about the Lord Cornwallis, The Royal Mail & Queen Mum, yes???Wink


I think it safe to assume that none of those will create much reaction from a Brit. Well, we will moan about the Royal Mail as much as you, probably more, but we're unlikely to be offended or feel the need to defend it.


Thanks for the clarification.Smile  Admittedly I am tragically behind on all the current banter you Brits throw around,
but I was surprised why SnowDog didn't at least address the issues in my post. An English lack of sense or humor or stuffiness?  Oops I did it again.Confused   That sure won't make him show up any time soon and tell me what he thinks of Eric Johnson -Ah Via Musicom.

Nonetheless, my undying love for all things Brittish has been reborn, as today in my mailbox, arrived the first two ELP records remastered in 5.1 DVD-Audio.  The remix is masterful and the listening experience is sublime bliss.


Most of us don't know who Cornwallis is (I had to look him up on Wikipedia) - that's not surprising because we tend to overlook the battles we didn't win LOL (unlike the you guys and the Alamo and Little Big Horn Tongue). And if the French played a major role in that defeat then we're even more inclinded to fail to remember it Wink From a purely financial perspective we didn't come out of it too badly, unlike the colony and its allies who incurred serious national debt as a result - that ultimately led to the French Revolution and Britain's eventual victory over Bonaparte - choosing between an enemy at your doorstep and one 5000 miles away isn't that difficult. I'm not belittling the American Revolutionary War here - the result of it made two great nations and weakened several others - I doubt that Britain would have emerged as the leading player in the Industrial Revolution without losing half of the American colonies. Remember also, you guys still live closer to a couple of Commomwealth nations than we do Wink.
 
Now, to Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon... what a strange and contradictory woman she was - whenever you find some quote or comment about her that you don't approve of there will be a counter quote or comment that completely arse-ends that - she was a fascist sympathiser would admired communism, a racist who liked foreigners (did you know she had a collection of Ska music?) ... and she liked booze and fags (of both denominations), moreover she had a wickedly dry sense of humour that most of the current bunch of royals sadly lack. On balance I didn't like her much, but I did begrudingly admire her.
 
Btw: Ian (Snow Dog) is Welsh, his English sense of humour is lacking from birth.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 06:45
^I think we share a British sense of humour.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 06:51
Unfortunately, having to share a sense of humour means that only one nation can use it at any one time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 06:54
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Unfortunately, having to share a sense of humour means that only one nation can use it at any one time.

Ok, well it's your go.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 06:55
I wish I didn't keep misreading this thread title Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 06:59
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Unfortunately, having to share a sense of humour means that only one nation can use it at any one time.

Ok, well it's your go.
 
no, no, no after you sir
 
(or after Dean)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:08
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Unfortunately, having to share a sense of humour means that only one nation can use it at any one time.

Ok, well it's your go.
 
no, no, no after you sir
 
(or after Dean)
"Your Majesty is like a stream of bat piss..."
 
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"...that's one of Wilde's"
 
"No it sodding was not, it was Shaw!"
 
"Well, Shaw?"
 
"I, um, I, ah, I merely meant, Your Majesty, that, ah, your Progressive Symphonic Poweer Metal shines out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:13
Quoting Python is so passe.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:16
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Quoting Python is so passe.
 
No its not!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:20
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Quoting Python is so passe.
 
No its not!
I thought the Majesty/Dream Theater connection was witty and apt. Perhaps only I made that connection.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:22
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:


And King Crimson so totally conforms to old blues standards?

Um...I never said that?  Did the review say that?  I don't know why I've never really been able to get into King Crimson - they just haven't made a connection with me yet.  But they obviously have with you, and that's why I've said in this thread and in others: it's just preference, and I wish reviewers would be honest about this when they are negative and point out what people might love about the band and then admit their own dislike of the band just boils down to preference.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:24
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Quoting Python is so passe.
 
No its not!
I thought the Majesty/Dream Theater connection was witty and apt. Perhaps only I made that connection.
 
Sorry!  I know nothing about DT except *whispers* I don't like them  
 
(Noits not is a MP quote) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:25
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Quoting Python is so passe.
 
No its not!
I thought the Majesty/Dream Theater connection was witty and apt. Perhaps only I made that connection.

Very subtle.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:30
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:


And King Crimson so totally conforms to old blues standards?

Um...I never said that?  Did the review say that?  I don't know why I've never really been able to get into King Crimson - they just haven't made a connection with me yet.  But they obviously have with you, and that's why I've said in this thread and in others: it's just preference, and I wish reviewers would be honest about this when they are negative and point out what people might love about the band and then admit their own dislike of the band just boils down to preference.

Actually, I should've added to this - I really do enjoy hearing Dream Theater play "Lark's Tongues In Aspic Pt. 2", which they did as part of the bonus materials for Black Clouds and Silver Linings.  And when I went to the King Crimson version I didn't like it as much - it's a preference thing and I prefer louder and more energetic, and I'm not ashamed of that.  Louder and more energetic is not for some people, though, and that's ok.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:30
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Quoting Python is so passe.
 
No its not!
I thought the Majesty/Dream Theater connection was witty and apt. Perhaps only I made that connection.

Very subtle.Wink

It is, but it's a clever connection.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 07:31
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:


And King Crimson so totally conforms to old blues standards?

Um...I never said that?  Did the review say that?  I don't know why I've never really been able to get into King Crimson - they just haven't made a connection with me yet.  But they obviously have with you, and that's why I've said in this thread and in others: it's just preference, and I wish reviewers would be honest about this when they are negative and point out what people might love about the band and then admit their own dislike of the band just boils down to preference.


But the review does jump to the conclusion that people who don't like DT only listen to blues based rock and don't have an appetite for 'educated' music.    Do you think that heartily quoting such a review makes a great case for how much you or said writer respect others' preferences?  I don't think so.   The whole premise that you and many other DT fanboys keep citing - that people don't get DT's complexity and therefore dismiss it as sterile - is over-generalized and largely false.   You just don't want to consider that there may be other reasons than 'jealousy' why people don't like DT  (or just don't like them enough to consider it one of their most favourite bands).  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 08:01
Now DT is he music for the "educated"? Damn I have met quite a few DT fans who would fail miserably at fulfilling that standard. .

And it needs to be said one last time: with the exceptions of a few songs, those claims about DT not using the verse-chorus-verse structure are false. DT uses it in almost all their songs (starting with Pull me Under) though they extend the sections with instrumental paraphernalia. They have a few songs that don't follow that scheme, but they are few (but not so far between: almost all are in the same album, Images and Words).

I insist I used to carry the Fanboy flag for the band so please Thread Starter be gentle on me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 08:08
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Now DT is he music for the "educated"? Damn I have met quite a few DT fans who would fail miserably at fulfilling that standard. .

And it needs to be said one last time: with the exceptions of a few songs, those claims about DT not using the verse-chorus-verse structure are false. DT uses it in almost all their songs (starting with Pull me Under) though they extend the sections with instrumental paraphernalia. They have a few songs that don't follow that scheme, but they are few (but not so far between: almost all are in the same album, Images and Words).

I insist I used to carry the Fanboy flag for the band so please Thread Starter be gentle on me

Um...ok, sure, they use verse/chorus...their songs go:
Verse-chorus-verse-choruse-bridge1-bridge2-bridge3-....um...I dunno but it changes rhythm structure about 80 times so I guess now we're at bridge number 83-chorus-chorus

Yup, nothing but traditional there.  Wink LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 08:52
Yes, it's most of it (not all) rather traditional.

Not that I dislike that. But it's reality.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 08:53
Basically DT write  basic songs with a ton of widdly bits in the middle.
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