Drumming+Singing

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   Hello everyone.Good evening friends.
I play the drums and do vocals as well. Backing vocals, whispers, growls and low pitch singing.
So, I thought I can ask if someone is here who sing and drum at the same time.
What setup are you guys using?
I tried drumming and singing with a Shure mic but it ended up picking a lot of the noises and echoes more than my voice.
So, what mics do you use? 
Also, the mic stand seems to be an issue as a normal one tends to drop down or move out of voice detection range. It seems like gooseneck stands seem to be the best option (The ones Portnoy uses)
Do give in extra inputs and your knowledge as it would help me a lot. 
Thanks :)

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appudds Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: July 25 2012 Location: Chennai, India Status: Offline Points: 101	Topic: Drumming+Singing Posted: September 10 2012 at 09:56
	Hello everyone. Good evening friends. I play the drums and do vocals as well. Backing vocals, whispers, growls and low pitch singing. So, I thought I can ask if someone is here who sing and drum at the same time. What setup are you guys using? I tried drumming and singing with a Shure mic but it ended up picking a lot of the noises and echoes more than my voice. So, what mics do you use? Also, the mic stand seems to be an issue as a normal one tends to drop down or move out of voice detection range. It seems like gooseneck stands seem to be the best option (The ones Portnoy uses) Do give in extra inputs and your knowledge as it would help me a lot. Thanks :)

stonebeard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057	Posted: September 10 2012 at 12:54
	What Shure mic did you use? I drum but don't sing while drumming, but you're best bet is obviously going to be a dynamic mic because of the off-axis rejection. I imagine a Shure SM58 would be damn near perfect, and if not that then a Shure SM7 would be my next choice. It's just a bit bulky. You're going to want the mic facing as directly at you and as away from the set as possible. You can probably gate it, but it might sound awkward if you're compressing too much. Gating is tricky business, and for vox you might just be better off not worrying about gates. See pic for details: Of course, depending on your set, it might be unrealistic to have it totally pointing away from the set. It's a balance issue. Edited by stonebeard - September 10 2012 at 12:55
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appudds Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: July 25 2012 Location: Chennai, India Status: Offline Points: 101	Posted: September 14 2012 at 09:43
	Thanks for the reply. Sorry for answering quite late. I used a Shure SM58 only. Along with a marshall mx50 condensor for studio recordings. But still, when i try playing live, I get the cymbal strikes and the drum skin vibrations as feedback to the mic rather than mics. Positioning the mic to the left of the hats can be an option but as you said, there are problems as the mic is bulky. And, no. I don't like gating either. It's too risky onstage and besides, it tampers with my voice i feel. As I said, probably a mic positioned in a gooseneck stand exactly behind you seems to be the best solution to this problem.

deafmoon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 24 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 462	Posted: September 05 2013 at 14:40
	I always used a tripod based stand with a boom and a short gooseneck that I set and just swung around when I didn't need to sing. It comes over the top of your head, not from the sides and I used a SM58 for the vocals. Of course this mic will pick up other noise when not in use, so have it on a separate line to the snake and have your soundman control the mic from the board.
	Deafmoon