The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread

Morsenator wrote: zumacraig wrote: infandous wrote: AlexDOM wrote: infandous wrote: AlexDOM wrote: I happen to like his praise lyrics, but I pretty much love anything he does period... Obviously you are not alone.  I just find no creativity in his lyrics on his solo albums.  He's  been repeating the same theme, same concept, over and over again on every album.  I just don't understand why he can't write about something else once in a while (other Christians do it, Glass Hammer, for example). That's him sharing his life story, His testimony, its so personal...  What Christ did in his life. I fail to see how that's repetitive and not creative. And the albums that aren't his story are incredible creative, Sola and ? are awesomely creative. One, though a familiar concept is done so so well... (sorry I would agree Lifeline is a little sub par, but still is solid) Hence my two favorite solo albums of his are Sola and ?  I understand what you are saying, but........it's been done many times before, is I guess what I'm saying.  I find his music incredibly formulaic as well........but what a GREAT formula!!  The music is almost always fantastic (though Lifeline, as you mention, is less than fantastic for me, except for a couple tracks), so I generally just accept and deal with the lyrics.  I actually enjoy the autobiographical nature of the two Testimony albums, and wasn't put off by the lyrics much at all (except near the end of the first Testimony......but that is to be expected). I guess I just prefer lyrics that are open to interpretation, which Morse's are most definitely not. everyone seems to be forgetting the title of one of his albums and just putting down '?'.  collective amnesia?    i just can't help myself.  so God decided that he was going to fix the hole in his daughter's heart so Neal could quit spock's beard and spread God's Love through christian prog.  so, what about all the other babies at death's door that night that God didn't heal? i really love this dude's music, but he is so spiritually naive.   Meh, I think I'm not gonna start another conversation here. I'll just say that whether or not you want to explain what happened to his daughter scientifically, it's still a real miracle. I'd suggest you read the book, it sure made me understand why Neal does what he does.

Yeah, I don't think calling him "spiritually naive" is very accurate, since you'd have to know him well personally to really make such a statement, IMO.  I totally understand why he does what he does.  I know a couple born again Christians very well, and have talked to them at length about their beliefs and transformation.  Hence my opinion that his lyrics are just not that creative on the whole (though again, Sola and ? are exceptions).

 

Opinions about Neal's new release?

infandous wrote: Morsenator wrote: zumacraig wrote: infandous wrote: AlexDOM wrote: infandous wrote: AlexDOM wrote: I happen to like his praise lyrics, but I pretty much love anything he does period... Obviously you are not alone.  I just find no creativity in his lyrics on his solo albums.  He's  been repeating the same theme, same concept, over and over again on every album.  I just don't understand why he can't write about something else once in a while (other Christians do it, Glass Hammer, for example). That's him sharing his life story, His testimony, its so personal...  What Christ did in his life. I fail to see how that's repetitive and not creative. And the albums that aren't his story are incredible creative, Sola and ? are awesomely creative. One, though a familiar concept is done so so well... (sorry I would agree Lifeline is a little sub par, but still is solid) Hence my two favorite solo albums of his are Sola and ?  I understand what you are saying, but........it's been done many times before, is I guess what I'm saying.  I find his music incredibly formulaic as well........but what a GREAT formula!!  The music is almost always fantastic (though Lifeline, as you mention, is less than fantastic for me, except for a couple tracks), so I generally just accept and deal with the lyrics.  I actually enjoy the autobiographical nature of the two Testimony albums, and wasn't put off by the lyrics much at all (except near the end of the first Testimony......but that is to be expected). I guess I just prefer lyrics that are open to interpretation, which Morse's are most definitely not. everyone seems to be forgetting the title of one of his albums and just putting down '?'.  collective amnesia?    i just can't help myself.  so God decided that he was going to fix the hole in his daughter's heart so Neal could quit spock's beard and spread God's Love through christian prog.  so, what about all the other babies at death's door that night that God didn't heal? i really love this dude's music, but he is so spiritually naive.   Meh, I think I'm not gonna start another conversation here. I'll just say that whether or not you want to explain what happened to his daughter scientifically, it's still a real miracle. I'd suggest you read the book, it sure made me understand why Neal does what he does. Yeah, I don't think calling him "spiritually naive" is very accurate, since you'd have to know him well personally to really make such a statement, IMO.  I totally understand why he does what he does.  I know a couple born again Christians very well, and have talked to them at length about their beliefs and transformation.  Hence my opinion that his lyrics are just not that creative on the whole (though again, Sola and ? are exceptions).

AlexDOM wrote: zumacraig wrote: infandous wrote: Morsenator wrote: zumacraig wrote: infandous wrote: AlexDOM wrote: infandous wrote: AlexDOM wrote: I happen to like his praise lyrics, but I pretty much love anything he does period... Obviously you are not alone.  I just find no creativity in his lyrics on his solo albums.  He's  been repeating the same theme, same concept, over and over again on every album.  I just don't understand why he can't write about something else once in a while (other Christians do it, Glass Hammer, for example). That's him sharing his life story, His testimony, its so personal...  What Christ did in his life. I fail to see how that's repetitive and not creative. And the albums that aren't his story are incredible creative, Sola and ? are awesomely creative. One, though a familiar concept is done so so well... (sorry I would agree Lifeline is a little sub par, but still is solid) Hence my two favorite solo albums of his are Sola and ?  I understand what you are saying, but........it's been done many times before, is I guess what I'm saying.  I find his music incredibly formulaic as well........but what a GREAT formula!!  The music is almost always fantastic (though Lifeline, as you mention, is less than fantastic for me, except for a couple tracks), so I generally just accept and deal with the lyrics.  I actually enjoy the autobiographical nature of the two Testimony albums, and wasn't put off by the lyrics much at all (except near the end of the first Testimony......but that is to be expected). I guess I just prefer lyrics that are open to interpretation, which Morse's are most definitely not. everyone seems to be forgetting the title of one of his albums and just putting down '?'.  collective amnesia?    i just can't help myself.  so God decided that he was going to fix the hole in his daughter's heart so Neal could quit spock's beard and spread God's Love through christian prog.  so, what about all the other babies at death's door that night that God didn't heal? i really love this dude's music, but he is so spiritually naive.   Meh, I think I'm not gonna start another conversation here. I'll just say that whether or not you want to explain what happened to his daughter scientifically, it's still a real miracle. I'd suggest you read the book, it sure made me understand why Neal does what he does. Yeah, I don't think calling him "spiritually naive" is very accurate, since you'd have to know him well personally to really make such a statement, IMO.  I totally understand why he does what he does.  I know a couple born again Christians very well, and have talked to them at length about their beliefs and transformation.  Hence my opinion that his lyrics are just not that creative on the whole (though again, Sola and ? are exceptions).   i'll stick with naive and add in dangerous and unconsciously cruel. What?????? I got Momentum in the mail today, cannot believe I got it nearly two weeks early from the release date. I love you Neal Morse!!!! You always blow my mind...

Edited by Morsenator - August 31 2012 at 04:21

AEProgman wrote: I am looking forward to getting Momentum.  His composing, musical, and passionate singing skills are rare in one individual.  One is my favorite so far of his, followed in no particular order are both Testimonies, ?, Sola Scriptura, and all the Transatlantic stuff.<p>   My first exposure to his work was with Testimony 1 and I could not believe what I was hearing as I had long been removed from the prog world since the late 80s and was blown away.

^ Nice avatar!

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Edited by darkshade - September 02 2012 at 22:14

Outshined wrote: Wow, sent so early? Well, I had the privilege to be able to have the album more than a month now. I believe it's his best solo effort since "Sola Scriptura", though I love all of his works. In the coming days there will be an interview I did with him a while ago, so  if you 're interested, just let me know to give you a link (there'll be an English version). In Neal we trust.

TheFandangler wrote: darkshade wrote: ^ Nice avatar! 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Next week should be up and I'll gladly share  a link with you.

Till then here's a review that you might want to read via google translator and here's a buyer's guide they asked me to make.

Yeah I know, I am fan too and all his albums are masterpieces... but I tried to be as objective as I could.

Any comment is welcome.

Ytse_Jam wrote: Outshined wrote: here's a review that you might want to read via google translator That made me smile.

Well, unless you know how to read Greek, I guees the only way to read it if you want to is to try and translate it.
That's what I do with articles in languages I don't know.
Ok, it's not always working but you get the main points I think...