Your views on the next Opeth album - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Author

Message

Topic Search

Topic Options

Roj

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 3126

Posted: August 21 2012 at 07:53

Hopefully a good deal heavier and a few growls please

Jbird

Forum Senior Member

Joined: June 20 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 338

Posted: August 21 2012 at 15:30

I understand why he's not doing the cookie monster vocals these days, but I would be happier if the music itself were a bit heavier than what was on Heritage.

AlexDOM

Forum Senior Member

Joined: February 02 2011
Location: Indianapolis
Status: Offline
Points: 775

Posted: August 21 2012 at 16:04

Jbird wrote:

I understand why he's not doing the cookie monster vocals these days, but I would be happier if the music itself were a bit heavier than what was on Heritage.

Cookie monster, more like beast monster

dreadpirateroberts View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: May 27 2011
Location: AU
Status: Offline
Points: 952

Posted: August 21 2012 at 20:00

AlexDOM wrote:

Jbird wrote:

I understand why he's not doing the cookie monster vocals these days, but I would be happier if the music itself were a bit heavier than what was on Heritage.

Cookie monster, more like beast monster

We are men of action. Lies do not become us.
JazzMusicArchives.

Heliosphan View Drop Down

Forum Newbie

Joined: August 25 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 7

Posted: August 25 2012 at 11:50

I don't mind growls at all since Still Life is one of my favorite albums and I like some death metal bands. But I'm pretty sure I read in an interview that Mikael decided to call it quits on the growls.

darkshade

Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: November 19 2005
Location: New Jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 10964

Posted: August 25 2012 at 12:28

I remember on the Heritage DVD that Mikael said something like he hasn't ruled out growls ever again in Opeth's music, but that right now, he isn't feeling it.

My Last.fm

CCVP

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 15 2007
Location: Vitória, Brasil
Status: Offline
Points: 7971

Posted: August 25 2012 at 13:13

darkshade wrote:

I remember on the Heritage DVD that Mikael said something like he hasn't ruled out growls ever again in Opeth's music, but that right now, he isn't feeling it.

Indeed. I remember him saying something about exploring new musical perspectives and I'm totally for that, even if I don't particularly like where it's leading to, which is not the case with Opeth.

Meta

Forum Groupie

Joined: August 22 2012
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 69

Posted: August 25 2012 at 13:25

Mikael went through a rough patch where he switched monitor systems during live use, and it really messed up his growl technique. A lot of people had thought he blew out his voice (maybe permanently), but when he switched back to the old monitoring system all was well.

Hopefully being able to growl comfortably again live will lead to a bit of growl on the next album.

I think Opeth's best album is Ghost Reveries, so a return to heavier material would be just fine by me.

I will forever lament Martin Lopez leaving the band, though.

Meta's Official Website

Ambient Hurricanes View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: December 25 2011
Location: internet
Status: Offline
Points: 2549

Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:05

appudds wrote:

Imagine If opeth pull out something like Dark Eternal Night from Systematic Chaos by DT...

Oh please no.

I love dogs, I've always loved dogs

CCVP

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 15 2007
Location: Vitória, Brasil
Status: Offline
Points: 7971

Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:10

Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

appudds wrote:

Imagine If opeth pull out something like Dark Eternal Night from Systematic Chaos by DT...

Oh please no.

Systematic Chaos was a great album, ok? Angry

Ambient Hurricanes View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: December 25 2011
Location: internet
Status: Offline
Points: 2549

Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:13

CCVP wrote:

Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

appudds wrote:

Imagine If opeth pull out something like Dark Eternal Night from Systematic Chaos by DT...

Oh please no.

Systematic Chaos was a great album, ok? Angry

It was OK. I can't even get through The Ministry of Lost Souls, though.

I love dogs, I've always loved dogs

CCVP

Prog Reviewer

Joined: September 15 2007
Location: Vitória, Brasil
Status: Offline
Points: 7971

Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:27

Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

CCVP wrote:

Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

appudds wrote:

Imagine If opeth pull out something like Dark Eternal Night from Systematic Chaos by DT...

Oh please no.

Systematic Chaos was a great album, ok? Angry

It was OK. I can't even get through The Ministry of Lost Souls, though.

I have to agree that it has two songs that I didn't enjoyed thoroughly: Forsaken and Ministry; the former because of the huge amounts of cheese/badness and the latter because it's way too big, but still enjoyable.

Ambient Hurricanes View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: December 25 2011
Location: internet
Status: Offline
Points: 2549

Posted: August 25 2012 at 22:36

CCVP wrote:

Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

CCVP wrote:

Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

appudds wrote:

Imagine If opeth pull out something like Dark Eternal Night from Systematic Chaos by DT...

Oh please no.

Systematic Chaos was a great album, ok? Angry

It was OK. I can't even get through The Ministry of Lost Souls, though.

I didn't necessarily hate any of the songs, but all of them except for The Dark Eternal Night and In the Presence of Enemies were kind of meh for me. And even though I like ADEN, I don't really think it's one of DT's better songs. Ministry sounded good at first and then went on forever with an out-of-place solo section.

BC&SL was an improvement, in my opinion (musically, not lyrically Dead

) and then they came back with ADTOE and that was great.

I love dogs, I've always loved dogs

darkshade

Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: November 19 2005
Location: New Jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 10964

Posted: August 25 2012 at 23:17

Agreed, Systematic Chaos was a dip in quality for DT, but they came back with BC&SL, though flawed, a much better album. However, A Dramatic Turn of Events blows them all away.

I like The Dark Eternal Night, it's got great riffs. If Opeth did a song or two like that on the new album, I'd probably enjoy it.

My Last.fm

Nightfly

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: August 01 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 3659

Posted: August 26 2012 at 09:13

I've had a feeling that the next Opeth album would be heavier than Heritage but without returning to death metal style vocals. From the whispers that are going around it seems very probable. I for one will be happy without the growls - it was always something I've tolerated rather than enjoyed and even Watershed had a higher clean vocal ratio than past releases.

Daysbetween View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: November 12 2006
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 1036

Posted: August 26 2012 at 11:09

I have liked Opeth since Morningrise and I love Heritage so will probably enjoy whatever Mikael decides upon. I would like the music to be a bit heavier next time and don't expect any growls but trust Mikael is continuing to "progress" and is still being influenced by his record collection.

Dellinger

Forum Senior Member

VIP Member

Joined: June 18 2009
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 12810

Posted: August 27 2012 at 18:34

I would be extremely happy if Opeth came with a full metal album withough growls.

RedNightmareKing View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: September 03 2012
Location: Colorado
Status: Offline
Points: 321

Posted: September 04 2012 at 23:02

I'm a huge fan of the Swedish death metal proggers. What I really want is another concept-ish album like Morningrise or Still Life. However, I just really enjoy almost everything Opeth puts out (save for Deliverance, MAYBE). So if this new album is sort of in the hard rock vein, I'm fine without Mikael's death growls. I hope that the progressive elements are still VERY prominent within their compositions.

I consider drone metal to be progressive...

Chozal

Forum Senior Member

Joined: December 01 2011
Location: Melun, France
Status: Offline
Points: 187

Posted: September 06 2012 at 13:33

(Systematic Chaos is to me exactly what DT sounds like for the DT haters)

On topic : I must say I never got really excited by Heritage. Storm Corrosion was a superb album imo, but I wouldn't mind if Mikael stopped using the acoustic for a while ... I still trust him as a songwriter, he has repeatedly shown great talent. Never was a big fan of Opeth anyway (although Blackwater Park blows me away every time I listen it) so if it's bad, it's ok for me :p

The Infinite Progability Drive, feeding you daily progressive/weird music for just a like <3

Quirky Turkey View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: August 17 2011
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 177

Posted: September 09 2012 at 03:04

I don't mind the growls but I prefer the songs with clean vocals.(I loved Heritage). I would be happy if Opeth did another album that sounds either similar to Watershed or Heritage. Ghost Reveries, although great and proggy in some spots, was too orthodox Opeth for me, with too much emphasis on 'heavy.'