^ That album or any of Swans 90's material has sort of droning vocals combined with precursor Post-Rock and eclectic bag of other genres. Highly recommended. Early Swans material is more No Wave, Post Punkish kind of deal; very different in contrast to the latter days.
I have heard some of the swans darker output and must say that there is definitely a time and place for it. I am not sure where that time and place is but it might not be far from the nearest psyche clinic. I shall have to give this particular album a listen. One of the things I am searching for is melodics in my post rock. From what I recall Swans were not very melodic. I see certain bands, such as A perfect circle and Deftones as having some qualities of post rock but maintaining them within the setting that it is in (primarily hard rock). The atmosphere, the experimentation and the melodic approach to the music and the vocal melody. Please reference the first post I made on this thread for more.
Edited by ProgressToChange - August 24 2012 at 00:25
I'm not sure about the "Vocal Afterthought" criticism, it certainly isn't the case. The poetry is the main focal point imo and really locks in with the beautifully melancholic scene they make. Guess they just aren't for you.
Let my make myself clear, I like the instrumentation a lot. I just think the spoken word execution is bland and sounds exactly the same on every track. But I respect your opinion as well.
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You know it might just be that I am not in the mood at this particular time for spoken word, so my opinion might be based on my current modus operandi. I might be going through a melodic vocal phase again, which I often do as an aspiring musical expressionist myself.
Edited by ProgressToChange - August 24 2012 at 00:28
^ That album or any of Swans 90's material has sort of droning vocals combined with precursor Post-Rock and eclectic bag of other genres. Highly recommended. Early Swans material is more No Wave, Post Punkish kind of deal; very different in contrast to the latter days.
I'm not sure about the "Vocal Afterthought" criticism, it certainly isn't the case. The poetry is the main focal point imo and really locks in with the beautifully melancholic scene they make. Guess they just aren't for you.
Like I am listening to The Enablers Album Blown realms and stalled explosions on bandcamp right now and it's frustrating me because the music is so beautiful but the vocals are lazy and anti-Rhythmic and A-melodic. I keep picturing vocals that I could put over this beautiful music that would sound so much f**king better. Like this guys approach to every song is the same. Just reciting poetry over beautiful music, without any concern for how it fits in it seems. I don't want to be listening to bands with "wow I can sing something beautiful over this, what the f**k is this guy doing?" on my mind the whole time.
I just downloaded the album "we became your family when you died" by Bullets in Madison. next I will check out the Enablers, but if most of their stuff is like the "spoken word" variety where the vocals are more there for an after thought I might actually just save them for certain moods. Because there are indeed times when I am into that sort of stuff. What do you think of september malevolence and Early Day miners?
Then i suggest you to continue to listen to Enablers. The power they have in their sound is astonishing.
Look them up on Bandcamp and download the two albums i recommended to you for free. Highly suggested. Or you could just stream them there, though i'm not sure why you would pass on such great post-rock.
Thanks. I don't mean to sound like a snob about vocals but for some reason Post rock makes the most sense WITH them than without them for my personal tastes. I just sort of tune out when there are no vocals or when the vocals are an after thought. Maybe because I am a poet and lyricist myself. But every time I hear primarily instrumental post rock I find myself saying "THIS NEEDS VOCALS!". With bands like ozric tentacles I don't say that, because I believe their music is geared that way to be primarily instrumental, but instrumental post rock sounds lacking to me. Even though the music is mostly beautiful.
Edited by ProgressToChange - August 23 2012 at 20:17
The Mogwai song is good but again here the vocals seem more of an afterthought to add some extra atmospherics, rather than playing an important role with important lyrics.
Affirmative on the Bullets In Madison.
This is somewhat closer to what i'm feeling out in these other bands. Beautiful musical textures. Somber but present vocals with meaningful lyrics and actual vocal melodies instead of just random sounds designed to sound spacey. The question is, is this like one of two vocal songs on an album otherwise populated by 10 or 12 other totally instrumental tracks?
Beautiful. It almost sounds like a Power Metal band without the metal portion. I will keep my ear on this band. Sorry I was referring to pure reason revolution here.
Edited by ProgressToChange - August 23 2012 at 21:15
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Zilver Mt. Zion Has some nice Ambient sounds going on but I would not define what I am hearing as post rock, so much as minimalist/Ambient/Indi. Not bad but not quite what I am looking for.
Is Sigur Ros really considered post rock?
"Post-Rock" is probably more diverse sounding than most think it is. A Silver Mt. Zion is an offshoot of Godspeed You Black Emperor and Sigur Ros are not only considered 'post-rock' but are the most popular PR band in the world. Personally, I never cared for them.
Going by your examples, have you heard the last Mogwai album?
Bullets In Madison may be for you (if you haven't heard them already).
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