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    Posted: August 18 2012 at 11:53
 I sometimes copy my LPs onto CD, and i have a problem.
           It's getting hard to find good quality blank CD-Rs. The quality of a CD-R depends on the dye it's made with: green dyes are the lowest quality, blue dyes are good, and golden-yellow dyes are the highest archival quality.
           You can tell the colour of a CD by laying a tissue over the surface to block the rainbow reflection. Does anybody know a brand or model of blue CD-Rs?

*Special Note* It has been pointed out that i am wrong, that the color of dye used is not an indicator of the quality of your disc.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:07
Cool tip.  My last batch are greenies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:21
I went to check some in my collection that were made by others.  Jack Lancaster's Marscape is green.  But I got Ultra Violins by and from Darryl Way (he autographed the front label "to Brian" Big smile) it's black.  I've got an old Imation and a Maxell that are blue.  They really should let you know on the box, don't you think?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:52
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I went to check some in my collection that were made by others.  Jack Lancaster's Marscape is green.  But I got Ultra Violins by and from Darryl Way (he autographed the front label "to Brian" Big smile, it's black.  I've got an old Imation and a Maxell that are blue.  They really should let you know on the box, don't you think?
Yeah, letting you know on the outside of the box would make things simpler-it is actually a friend of mine that does the direct copying, and asked me to post this issue, i never thought of their being verification of this on the box itself. I will mention that to him as a possible identifying thing. Thanks, Brian
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 17:02
I don't think it makes a difference. It's just pits. The only thing to worry is if it will detirorate

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 17:13
This site says dyes vary by manufacturer and there's no conclusive proof one is better than the other:
http://www.kopyrite.com/tech_cdr.htm
But being organic they won't have the longevity of the regular manufactured ones.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 19:46
This link is very informative, thanks a lot, BrianThumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2012 at 03:49
The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2012 at 12:48
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2012 at 15:55
There was an interesting series on the History Channel called http://www.history.com/shows/life-after-people on one of the episodes they were talking about the decay of various forms of media, books, etc. that occur over time and of course would be accelerated if we were to all vanish from the planet and the various forms of indoor climate control would go offline.

Here's the episode I think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xDobH1tb0
The Crypt at Oglethorpe is a few miles away from where I live.

It's about 57 minutes into the first episode:



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2012 at 16:51
yp im also getting annoyed by low quality cd's,and if you listen to prog rock you must have high quality sound.

i always buy my cd's in  stores who sell such supplies,like sound speakers,... they are really expensive but they are worth it.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 04:16
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

 I sometimes copy my LPs onto CD, and i have a problem.
           It's getting hard to find good quality blank CD-Rs. The quality of a CD-R depends on the dye it's made with: green dyes are the lowest quality, blue dyes are good, and golden-yellow dyes are the highest archival quality.
           You can tell the colour of a CD by laying a tissue over the surface to block the rainbow reflection. Does anybody know a brand or model of blue CD-Rs?


Dang! I just tried it and I got one batch of green and another batch of blue. I had no idea about that. Cheers!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 04:18
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.

Yeah I said so. Before anyone.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 04:20
My last batch of blues were Sony silvers 700mb. The batch before that were green TDK golds.

What are the best quality as I thought they were good brands
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 04:21
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.

Yeah I said so. Before anyone.


Ah OK I can see that - it still is an interesting about the variations in colour. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 06:49
I believe Tayo Yuden is a good brand.  I've only used DVD's though, but they have been working nicely.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 11:11
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.

Yeah I said so. Before anyone.
Sorry, i had meant to refer to your statement as well
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 12:58
I've always used Verbatim or Maxell CD-Rs. I rarely use anything else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 14:26
I'm afraid that after Fukushima we will see increasingly strange colours in all the Japan-made CD-Rs Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 17:04
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.

Yeah I said so. Before anyone.

Hey, I did provide a link. Big smile
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