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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 02:46
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:00
Don Henley, i saw live clip of him with a bit of exitment that he also was the drummer in Eagles, but he played stiff and forced, so i had a hard time to beleve it was the same guy who played some nice drumming in the 70s. he looked unconfortable behind the kit, and looked like a newbie though he have probably been playing since the 60s
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:20
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I agree with Agalloch. I forgot to mention it. In the most recent albums he has improved but The Mantle is just quite atrocious in drumming.

John Haughm (the guitarist and vocalist) used to play the drums on the albums, but they got an actual drummer for the newest one.

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Can he play in anything other than 4/4? Does he know what polyrhythms are? Has he even heard a jazz record in his life?

These sound like odd criteria for "worst drummer".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:26
I once heard a recording of Stevie Wonder playing drums with Lennon&McCartney... it wasn't good

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:42
Stevie Wonder is one of Brann Dailors two most important influences as a drummer
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:47
Nick Mason. No he is not good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 04:04
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Originally posted by bytor2112 bytor2112 wrote:

I lol'd so hard at the Shaggs, was that supposed to be serious!LOL
Worst drumming I've ever heard.


The story of the Shaggs is actually kind of fascinating.  Their dad was a bit of a wackjob, and he had a dream that his daughters were going to have a band and be the biggest band in the world, so he took them out of school and forced them to play instruments that they didn't have the first clue how to play.  Then he hauled them into a studio to record their album.  The guy who ran the studio said maybe they should learn how to play first, but dear ole dad was having none of it - wanted to capture them "while they're hot".

Still, there's a certain primitivist charm there.....



That's kinda sad, but adds to their music in a way. Surprised I've never heard of the band. well, to an extent, they got their name out!! In any shape or form! Thanks for writing all that out! Definitely an interesting read!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 04:45
I'd take a lot of the mentioned drummers over a guy like Cobham. A man that personifies the whole notion of feel over technique, albeit the wrong way around. There is no denying that he sports just about the biggest chops inside the world of drumming - let's face it, he probably has a brain for every finger. He can do the most out there impossible rhythms and whatnot, but he lacks one fundamental ingredient imho and that is laying back and supporting the music around him. He always has to complicate things unnecessary throwing fills into the music like a never-ending machine. I much prefer the guy that stepped in for him in Mahavishnu, that Walden dude.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 05:20
Peter Criss on the list is baffling,he's a pretty good drummer.

Lars Ulrich without a seconds thought.Not onl;y can he not play worth a sh*t,but his drum sound horrible(Saint Anger anyone?)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 06:37
What are we talking here? Technical ability? Skill? Time-keeping? Most of the drummers mentioned are right for the bands they are in - I don't like Ulrich's drumming, but it's right for Metallica (not saying that someone like Slayer's Lombardo wouldn't have been better, but Hetfield and Hammett aren't Hanneman and King either) - Mason's drumming is right for Floyd and Starr was right for the Beatles (can you imagine The Beatles with Keef Moon on drums?) - White Stripes lo-fi approach prolly couldn't handle a better drummer (I'm guessing - I dislike White Stripes with a passion, but I can't imagine Portnoy bring much to the mix if he joined the White Stripes). Tommy Lee - he's not that good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 07:27
^Do we ever know what we're talking about Dean? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 07:45
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I'd take a lot of the mentioned drummers over a guy like Cobham. A man that personifies the whole notion of feel over technique, albeit the wrong way around. There is no denying that he sports just about the biggest chops inside the world of drumming - let's face it, he probably has a brain for every finger. He can do the most out there impossible rhythms and whatnot, but he lacks one fundamental ingredient imho and that is laying back and supporting the music around him. He always has to complicate things unnecessary throwing fills into the music like a never-ending machine. I much prefer the guy that stepped in for him in Mahavishnu, that Walden dude.


Hey, what did you think of his first solo album? He's a little more laid back there
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 07:51
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I'd take a lot of the mentioned drummers over a guy like Cobham. A man that personifies the whole notion of feel over technique, albeit the wrong way around. There is no denying that he sports just about the biggest chops inside the world of drumming - let's face it, he probably has a brain for every finger. He can do the most out there impossible rhythms and whatnot, but he lacks one fundamental ingredient imho and that is laying back and supporting the music around him. He always has to complicate things unnecessary throwing fills into the music like a never-ending machine. I much prefer the guy that stepped in for him in Mahavishnu, that Walden dude.


Hey, what did you think of his first solo album? He's a little more laid back there


I don't own Spectrum actually, but I'd like to hear it. That post of mine was really just about highlighting the same thing as Dean did, even if he did so more elegantly and without the confusing bits. Because what constitutes a bad drummer or a good one for that matter?  
He does have his moments on the debut, and I acknowledge that in full, after all I am a drummer myself, - but generally I think he does too much in too little time most of the time, if that makes any sort of senseConfused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 07:55
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I'd take a lot of the mentioned drummers over a guy like Cobham. A man that personifies the whole notion of feel over technique, albeit the wrong way around. There is no denying that he sports just about the biggest chops inside the world of drumming - let's face it, he probably has a brain for every finger. He can do the most out there impossible rhythms and whatnot, but he lacks one fundamental ingredient imho and that is laying back and supporting the music around him. He always has to complicate things unnecessary throwing fills into the music like a never-ending machine. I much prefer the guy that stepped in for him in Mahavishnu, that Walden dude.


Hey, what did you think of his first solo album? He's a little more laid back there


I don't own Spectrum actually, but I'd like to hear it. That post of mine was really just about highlighting the same thing as Dean did, even if he did so more elegantly and without the confusing bits. Because what constitutes a bad drummer or a good one for that matter?  
He does have his moments on the debut, and I acknowledge that in full, after all I am a drummer myself, - but generally I think he does too much in too little time most of the time, if that makes any sort of senseConfused

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 08:01
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I'd take a lot of the mentioned drummers over a guy like Cobham. A man that personifies the whole notion of feel over technique, albeit the wrong way around. There is no denying that he sports just about the biggest chops inside the world of drumming - let's face it, he probably has a brain for every finger. He can do the most out there impossible rhythms and whatnot, but he lacks one fundamental ingredient imho and that is laying back and supporting the music around him. He always has to complicate things unnecessary throwing fills into the music like a never-ending machine. I much prefer the guy that stepped in for him in Mahavishnu, that Walden dude.


Hey, what did you think of his first solo album? He's a little more laid back there


I don't own Spectrum actually, but I'd like to hear it. That post of mine was really just about highlighting the same thing as Dean did, even if he did so more elegantly and without the confusing bits. Because what constitutes a bad drummer or a good one for that matter?  
He does have his moments on the debut, and I acknowledge that in full, after all I am a drummer myself, - but generally I think he does too much in too little time most of the time, if that makes any sort of senseConfused


Yeah, makes total sense, absolutely Smile  'Good' and 'bad' are troublesome terms sometimes.

Definitely check it out if you come across it, he relaxes a lot in terms of the fills, and lets more funk in on Spectrum.
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Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I'd take a lot of the mentioned drummers over a guy like Cobham. A man that personifies the whole notion of feel over technique, albeit the wrong way around. There is no denying that he sports just about the biggest chops inside the world of drumming - let's face it, he probably has a brain for every finger. He can do the most out there impossible rhythms and whatnot, but he lacks one fundamental ingredient imho and that is laying back and supporting the music around him. He always has to complicate things unnecessary throwing fills into the music like a never-ending machine. I much prefer the guy that stepped in for him in Mahavishnu, that Walden dude.


Hey, what did you think of his first solo album? He's a little more laid back there


I don't own Spectrum actually, but I'd like to hear it. That post of mine was really just about highlighting the same thing as Dean did, even if he did so more elegantly and without the confusing bits. Because what constitutes a bad drummer or a good one for that matter?  
He does have his moments on the debut, and I acknowledge that in full, after all I am a drummer myself, - but generally I think he does too much in too little time most of the time, if that makes any sort of senseConfused

What do you think of Furio Chirico? 


Heheh I know where you're going with this, but I do find his style of playing much more in tune with what is happening around him. -Even if he probably takes the cake as the most busy drummer of the lotLOL 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 08:03
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I'd take a lot of the mentioned drummers over a guy like Cobham. A man that personifies the whole notion of feel over technique, albeit the wrong way around. There is no denying that he sports just about the biggest chops inside the world of drumming - let's face it, he probably has a brain for every finger. He can do the most out there impossible rhythms and whatnot, but he lacks one fundamental ingredient imho and that is laying back and supporting the music around him. He always has to complicate things unnecessary throwing fills into the music like a never-ending machine. I much prefer the guy that stepped in for him in Mahavishnu, that Walden dude.


Hey, what did you think of his first solo album? He's a little more laid back there


I don't own Spectrum actually, but I'd like to hear it. That post of mine was really just about highlighting the same thing as Dean did, even if he did so more elegantly and without the confusing bits. Because what constitutes a bad drummer or a good one for that matter?  
He does have his moments on the debut, and I acknowledge that in full, after all I am a drummer myself, - but generally I think he does too much in too little time most of the time, if that makes any sort of senseConfused


Yeah, makes total sense, absolutely Smile  'Good' and 'bad' are troublesome terms sometimes.

Definitely check it out if you come across it, he relaxes a lot in terms of the fills, and lets more funk in on Spectrum.


Will do - thanks for the heads upSmile I've actually thought about getting the album numerous of times, but somehow always found another album instead. Now he's on the 'genuine' listBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 11:21
Dave Holland.  He's not suitable for JP either, let alone pure skills.  Les Binks and Scott Travis did a much better job than him.  Holland was bad enough to make drum machines sound warm and human.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 13:57
Mick Pointer is the reason why I don't like Jester as much as much as I like the other Fish albums.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 16:40
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

What are we talking here? Technical ability? Skill? Time-keeping? Most of the drummers mentioned are right for the bands they are in - I don't like Ulrich's drumming, but it's right for Metallica (not saying that someone like Slayer's Lombardo wouldn't have been better, but Hetfield and Hammett aren't Hanneman and King either) - Mason's drumming is right for Floyd and Starr was right for the Beatles (can you imagine The Beatles with Keef Moon on drums?) - White Stripes lo-fi approach prolly couldn't handle a better drummer (I'm guessing - I dislike White Stripes with a passion, but I can't imagine Portnoy bring much to the mix if he joined the White Stripes). Tommy Lee - he's not that good.
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