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zumacraig
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Roine can't win. You can't please everyone. The fact that ther are lots of dif opinions means that people take his art seriously. I have a feeling BoE, Momentum, ? Will be my top for 2012. What else is there?
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Anthony H.
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New Roine interview:
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infandous
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For me, both the new Echolyn and the new Anglagard beat out BoE. That could change of course, but those two rank very high for me. The new Citizen Cain is up there for me as well. I need to give the new Izz more time, but that one seems very promising as well. Edited by infandous - July 26 2012 at 11:53 |
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TheMinstrelsGhost
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Zoltan Csörsz Jr. is finally on another prog album.
The Minstrel's Ghost has acquired the skills of Zoltan Csörsz Jr. for The Road To Avalon, an hour long epic re-telling the classic stories of King Arthur and his Knights. Also featuring Colin Tench from Corvus Stone and Bunchakeze, Marco Chiappini from Gandalf's Project and Troy James Martin from the LeeAnne Savage band. With a pre-order funding campaign in progress Blake Carpenter and The Minstrel's Ghost hope to have this album released late fall 2012. Edited by TheMinstrelsGhost - July 26 2012 at 12:41 |
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YtseRob2112
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I got "Banks of Eden" a couple weeks ago and I can't stop playing the thing! Such a classic TFK sound, and "Numbers" is easily among my top ten favorite TFK tracks. A very welcome return from one of my favorites.
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M27Barney
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The Stolte interview is mildly interesting (except his spiritual meandering again...)...there was a god-bothering preacher in Manchester City centre the other day when I was was passing by extolling the virtue of the after-life - he said it was a billion-billion times better than the humdrum reality that we were currently trudging through....So I paused and called out to him - if it's so good why don't you walk under the next train.....he paused and then said "if you kill yourself - you go to hell instead......." ah I laughed - "So many Caveats on the road to salvation or hellfire"....and got on with getting home.......
Peace........... I might have to listen to some anglagard - they sound promising...
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darkshade
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Awesome! I especially liked the last few minutes where Roine was talking about sales figures, illegal downloading, etc with TFK in mind. |
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darkshade
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Roine kind of lost me in his spiritual ramblings I have to check out the new Anglagard AND new Echolyn soon. Too much talk of how good they are around here. |
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darkshade
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Just finished my review of Flower Power, unfortunately I rated it some time ago, so it doesn't come up on TFK's page or PA's home page.
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=481759 |
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M27Barney
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Just listened to BoE - Again - this is definately a grower- because I reckon that if you were to grade every track - this might well be the most consitently brilliant CD that the band has produced...Other CD's all have at least 1 track that is substandard...this just hasn't got a weak track at all - The Anglagard CD must be fooking AWESOME if it's better than BoE........
I feel a CD spree coming on..... oh and the guitar solo in Numbers - after the sci-fi synth motif - made all the hairs stand on end - and that frightened the wife coz I'm a seriously hairy example of the primate homo sapiens.....
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infandous
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Well, that's just my feeling at the moment. I can't promise you will like it as much as I do......and it's a very different sort of album, being completely instrumental and coming from a very different musical perspective. Honestly, I'd be surprised if other folks on this thread agreed with me that it's better than BoE (I may not even agree with me in a month or two ) It's possible BoE hasn't "grown" on me enough as well. Even though I've heard it multiple times, I don't feel like I've really been able to give the whole thing my undivided attention. Though with past FK albums, it was nearly impossible NOT to give them my undivided attention when they were on, no matter what I was doing. So I'm holding off on a definite verdict for a while....... Edited by infandous - July 27 2012 at 16:02 |
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zumacraig
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haven't watched th interview yet. it's long.
i've only heard bit of anglagard. not the new one. i'll have to give the new one a listen. lots of mellotron if i remember. BoE isn't just ear candy. i've been able to really get into BoE, but the rest i've not given enough attention. i'm so behind. i'm finally getting into Grace For Drowning after it's been on my shelf for months! i did check out the citizen cain. good music, i'm just not a fan of gabriel clones. no offense:) at the moment i'm listening to dan fogelberg. i know, cheese, but i love that 70s singer-songwriter stuff! what else do you guys listen to besides prog? for me, its a bit of alt. country, grateful dead, classic rock. at this age, i've kind of settled into a handful of artists. it's too much work getting into new stuff! although, i may have to summon some energy to get into Universe Zero. my buddy has turned me on to them.
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zumacraig
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i wonder how much money TFK have lost as a result of downloading. i assume the folks who download wouldn't buy the CD or merch in the first place. also, these guys could at least play mid-size theaters if they toured their asses off. i don't care what kind of music you play, if you are good and tour your ass off, people will pay attention. that's what Dream Theater did and it paid off. and they play some very progressive music. neal morse could do this too. he's so hooky, he'd definitely be able to play theaters or arenas. they need some venture capitalists back them. i think steve hackett has a benefactor. hell, if i had the money i'd do it. or, as i've said before, a kickstarter campaign
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zumacraig
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Heard on progzilla podcast that 3rd world electric is playing some festival in November. Hope this means a new album. Roine has said that it would more fusion composition and less Jammy. I'm excited!
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Anthony H.
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Good to hear. Kilimanjaro Secret Brew was so much less than it could have been. Hopefully the second album will see the project living up to its potential. |
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zumacraig
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well, that first 3rd world album was a tribute to weather report. as a result, the songs were more grooves and jams rather than composed parts like, say, mahavishnu orchestra.
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appudds
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I really love their songs.
Many say they arent as good as transatlantic. But many forget that Transatlantic is different from The Flower Kings. Their songs are full on progressive rock. Has the feel good factor in them and their epics just take you to the next level. Roine Stolt and Tomas Bodin are under-rated geniuses. Not many bands can consistently come up with good material like the Flower Kings.
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infandous
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Perhaps, but I think it was exactly what they set out to do and pretty much exactly as Roine said it would be before release. I'm not a huge Weather Report fan myself, and that album was basically a tribute to them, done in their mid to late period style. I think it's quite good, though of limited interest for myself. Now, if they are planning to do something more in the Return to Forever style, I'll be much more interested in that. |
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zumacraig
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YES! a Return to Forever tribute-type would be incredible. they were definitely the most composition oriented of the big fusion bands. i don't think roine is a huge mahavishnu fan, but i can totally see him being into RtF. Anyway, great point. as far as Weather Report goes, Heavy Weather, of course, is great. I've tried to get into some of their other stuff, but it's just too jazz-jammy for me. just grooves and such rather than composition. the sound is good, but it loses my interest after a while. ironically, i fee like listening to WR now
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I like Kilimanjaro Secret Brew. I've listened to it a lot since I got it earlier this year. I knew what to expect, and maybe thought it was better than how most other people were describing it. I do yearn for them to do a more 'true' fusion record, besides a WR-influenced one.
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