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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blacksword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2012 at 07:35
^^^ Every nation, or likeminded collective of nations, thinks they are going to take over the world, and enforce their way of doing things on others, and the west is no exception. It all comes down to how you go about it. We can't just stick some jackboots on and start marching into other countries, rounding up people and sending them to death camps. That's been done, and it wouldn't be tolerated.

The wests mission is to spread love, freedom and democracy throughout the world by paying terrorists to overthrow governments on dubious 'humanitarian' and shakey legal grounds. It's no wonder there is a small lunatic fringe within Islam who want to mark out their territory. I guess to them the spread of western imperialism must be fairly plain to see, but for most of us it must appear that we are doing the right thing, thanks to the way our media reports our global shenanegans to us
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Perhaps it wouldn't be so controversial if a lot of them wouldn't go on mouthing off about the grand plan being Islam taking over the world.
Where I live I have to listen to this sort of stuff a whole lot more than I'd like to.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2012 at 03:26
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

There can't be legislation or any official rule stopping the mosque from being built in that area. That would be ridiculous. Having said that, I don't support it or agree with the mosque being built there.
It's not a mosque - it's the islamic equivalent of a YMCA.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 22:12
^Good example. Though blaming German for everything a few decades ago was much more accepted than blaming radical muslims for anything at all these days in Europe. Even when the whole Theo Van Gogh murder happened, I think they blamed him rather than the radicals. 

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Wouldn't you find it tacky (to say the least) if someone set up a stand selling patriotic German flags and souvenirs next to a Synagogue in the years following WWII, even though many Germans were not Nazis and many Germans were killed? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 17:43
There can't be legislation or any official rule stopping the mosque from being built in that area. That would be ridiculous. Having said that, I don't support it or agree with the mosque being built there.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 16:46
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

How do you stand on building the Muslim church next door to Ground Zero?  A similar yet different analogy I would think.


They have every right to do so, but personally I find it in bad taste.
Innocent muslims died in the WTC attacks and there are already islamic mosques in the local neighbourhood. Not all muslims are terrorists.


No one said they were. It would be in similarly bad taste to open a Black Metal record store near a church that had been burned down by one of the bands, even though not all Black Metal musicians burn down churches. Why is that so hard to understand?
I dunno, perhaps I'm too f*cking thick to understand. Perhaps it should have been seen as a gesture of conciliation and since the proposed building is an islamic community centre promoting interfaith dialogue perhaps we should stop calling it a mosque (even though it has plans for interdonminational and islamic prayer spaces within it, just as the Pentagon has a interdonominational prayer space for rememberance of the 9/11 attack there). I dunno how far two blocks is, I assume one block is next door, and two blocks is next to that ... how far away does it have to be to be in good taste? Also several muslim prayer spaces existed within the WTC itself.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote thellama73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 16:34
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

How do you stand on building the Muslim church next door to Ground Zero?  A similar yet different analogy I would think.


They have every right to do so, but personally I find it in bad taste.
Innocent muslims died in the WTC attacks and there are already islamic mosques in the local neighbourhood. Not all muslims are terrorists.


No one said they were. It would be in similarly bad taste to open a Black Metal record store near a church that had been burned down by one of the bands, even though not all Black Metal musicians burn down churches. Why is that so hard to understand?
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

How do you stand on building the Muslim church next door to Ground Zero?  A similar yet different analogy I would think.


They have every right to do so, but personally I find it in bad taste.
Innocent muslims died in the WTC attacks and there are already islamic mosques in the local neighbourhood. Not all muslims are terrorists.
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Sometimes I hate the people who write copy for news sites. Dead
Originally posted by Foxnews.com Foxnews.com wrote:


Did Officials Run A'fowl' With Threat
Over Exec's Gay Marriage Opinion?

Fast-food chain Chick-fil-A under fire for company chief's gay marriage comments — but with free speech and jobs on line, do threatening big city officials have a drumstick to stand on?


I know I am opening the floodgates to Fox bashing, but don't pretend they are the only ones who abuse puns like this.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 16:16
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:



They have every right to do so, but personally I find it in bad taste.


This is the idea I'm trying to get people to understand.  Just because you are personally for or against something doesn't mean we should try to legislate it.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

How do you stand on building the Muslim church next door to Ground Zero?  A similar yet different analogy I would think.


They have every right to do so, but personally I find it in bad taste.
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Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

I do support same-sex marriage, and I think that it's inappropriate for politicians to attempt to ban a business because of the owner's opinion.
 



Likewise, I don't believe in same-sex marriage, but I think it's inappropriate for politicians to ban them.  Why do we allow them the power to define marriage for us?  It's ridiculous.
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How do you stand on building the Muslim church next door to Ground Zero?  A similar yet different analogy I would think.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Evolver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 15:56
I do support same-sex marriage, and I think that it's inappropriate for politicians to attempt to ban a business because of the owner's opinion.
 
If people don't like the business because of that, they won't go there.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 15:50
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Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

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I've never understood exactly what "African-American culture" is.




I have a black kid, a Hispanic kid, a white kid, and a Native American kid in the same classroom.  Four different races, but you know what?  They dress the same, they speak the same way, they listen to the same music, they eat the same foods, they celebrate the same holidays, and they do pretty much the same things for fun. 

So don't tell me we're multicultural.  We're multiracial.  That is all.
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I dare you to send him a Chick-fil-A gift certificate.  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Equality 7-2521 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 15:20
Philadelphia joins the bandwagon. We do one better. We're going to make legislation!

If they take my hot morning, after gym, unsweetened Chick-fil-a Iced tea away from me, then I will be upset.



EDIT: I don't support laws for opposite sex marriage either so don't waste your time calling me a bigot or whatevs.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Truth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 15:14
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Corporations aren't inherently unethical but they are dedicated to making a profit regardless of consequences.  Good regulation is how you keep them in line.


Good regulation make them unsuccessful. And not all are unethical, I can't even think of one unethical example off the top of my head.
For Slarti, profits themselves are unethical. Wink


I assumed as much. LOL
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