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Nestlé S.A. or Société des Produits Nestlé S.A., headquartered in Vevey, Switzerland, is not only Switzerland's largest industrial company, but it is also the world's largest food and beverage company. With tens of billions of sales annually, it is one of the world's ten largest companies. It is the world leader in bottled water and coffee and is also one of the world's largest baby-food makers.

Nestlé USA, a subsidiary of Nestlé S.A, manufactures a wide variety of food products from chocolate to frozen dinners to pet food. The company also produces personal and health care products. Nestlé USA employs 21,000 people and reported sales of $8 billion in 2004.

Nestlé Waters, another subsidiary of Nestlé S.A., with its 72 bottled water brands worldwide, is the largest bottled water company in the world and represents 9% of Nestlé’s total sales. Nestlé is the largest bottled water company in the United States, where their brands have captured more than a 40% market share.

Most importantly, the huge multinational corporation is a noted corporate villain. Given the corporation’s record, it is not surprising that it was selected as the “World’s Most Unethical Company” by Ethical Consumer Magazine and voted one of “The Ten Worst Corporations of 1989” by Multinational Monitor. A detailed listing of all the corporation’s crimes would take up more time and space than is available, but below are some of the highlights in the corporation’s career of crime.

Nestlé is perhaps most notorious for its overly aggressive marketing of baby formula throughout the developing world. An estimated 1.5 million infants die each year because they are not breastfed. Mixing the formula with unsafe water poses a significant health risk to the infants, with these bottle-fed children up to 25 times more likely to die as a result of diarrhea than a breastfed child. By the time a child is sick, the mother may well have stopped producing her own milk for the child. Since 1977 (with a break from 1984-1988), Nestlé has been the target of a boycott, now reaching to 20 countries, because of its aggressive and immoral marketing of artificial baby milk. Nestlé’s tactics are in violation of the World Health Organization's International Code of Marketing of Breast-Milk Substitutes and contribute to the death and suffering of infants around the world. These marketing tactics helped get the corporation voted one of “The Ten Worst Corporations of 1989”.

Nestlé has an appalling record when it comes to labor and human rights violations. The company purchases a portion of its cocoa from the Ivory Coast, where it has been found that children have been forced or tricked into leaving their homes to work as indentured servants on cocoa plantations. It is estimated that between 10,000 and 15,000 children work on these plantations, some as young as 11 years old. The International Labor Rights Fund has sued Nestlé, Archer Daniels Midland, and Cargill in Federal District Court in Los Angeles for involvement in the trafficking, torture, and forced labor of children who cultivate and harvest cocoa beans that the companies import from Africa. They filed suit on behalf of a class of Malian children who were trafficked from Mali into the Ivory Coast and forced to work twelve to fourteen hours a day with no pay, little food and sleep, and frequent beatings. Source: International Labor Rights Fund and www.responsibleshopper.org

Nestlé is among those companies who have chosen to remain financially involved in Myanmar (Burma) despite the potential of any business to directly or indirectly strengthen the illegal military junta there. Source: Burma Forum Los Angeles

Nestlé has been involved in extensive union-busting activity in Colombia since it first arrived there 50 years ago. In the words of a spokesperson for SINALTRAINAL, the Colombian Foodworkers Union, “Nestlé converts the factories into camps for the public security forces in order to create terror in the community, destroy the unity of the workers, and misinform the members of the union, with the goal of pitting them against the leaders and destroying the movement. This is the policy of Nestlé all over the world.” Since the ‘dirty war’ erupted in Colombia in the early 1980s, trade unionists have been on the front line of targeted, but unofficial, repression. SINALTRAINAL was formed as an industrial union in 1982. According to SINALTRAINAL seven of its members working at Nestlé have been assassinated since then. The principal perpetrators of such disappearances are the paramilitary death squads. Although there is a certain separation between the agents of repression and official entities, the links are an open secret. Source: http://www.globalpolicy.org/reform/business/2002/09Nestlé.htm

In early 2005, Nestlé Purina sold thousands of tons of poisoned animal food in Venezuela. The local brands included Dog Chow, Cat Chow, Puppy Chow, Fiel, Friskies, Gatsy, K-Nina, Nutriperro, Perrarina and Pajarina. Over 500 dogs, cats, birds and cattle died. It was reported that it was caused by corn that was stored incorrectly, which lead to a proliferation of a fungus with a high quantity of aflatoxin causing hepatic problems in the animals that ate the food. In March 2005, the National Assembly of Venezuela stated that the company Nestlé Purina was responsible for the quality standards and compensation must be paid to the owners of the affected animals.

In the town of São Lourenço, in the state of Minas Gerais, Brazil, Nestlé's over-pumping in an historic mineral water park is blamed for ruining the healing springs on which tourism in the small town is based. In addition, contrary to federal law, Nestlé de-mineralized the water to process its Pure Life brand of bottled water. Nestlé built its Pure Life bottling plant and its surrounding wall in an area of high risk to the aquifer, also contrary to federal law.

Nestlé’s Ice Mountain bottling facility in Michigan had plans to extract 400 gallons of water per minute from Sanctuary Spring in the headwaters of the Little Muskegon River in Mecosta County. In a suit filed by Michigan Citizens for Water Conservation, Michigan Circuit Court Judge Lawrence Root concluded Nestlé’s water operation would unlawfully diminish the lakes, streams, and wetlands at issue and ordered Nestlé to stop pumping. Nestlé, with the help of Michigan’s Department of Environmental Quality, arrogantly circumvented the Judge’s order and continued its pumping.

To give proper source credit I am revising:
www.pauldonahue.net/Nestle.html
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Edited by Slartibartfast - July 26 2012 at 14:02
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Police officer fired for making racist remark at baseball game.  http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8202374/cop-fired-slurring-carl-crawford-boston-red-sox  I've never heard about this comment being racist before.


"Perrault has been on paid leave since he called Crawford a "Monday" before a July 5 minor league game in Manchester, N.H.

The word is considered a racial slur when associated with the phrase, "I hate Mondays.""


So Garfield is a racist? Seriously, I have never heard this usage before and can't see anything racist (or even racial) about it.

I know that I make this comment at the beginning of each and every week.
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Police officer fired for making racist remark at baseball game.  http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8202374/cop-fired-slurring-carl-crawford-boston-red-sox  I've never heard about this comment being racist before.


"Perrault has been on paid leave since he called Crawford a "Monday" before a July 5 minor league game in Manchester, N.H.

The word is considered a racial slur when associated with the phrase, "I hate Mondays.""


So Garfield is a racist? Seriously, I have never heard this usage before and can't see anything racist (or even racial) about it.



Soon, all words and phrases will be racist.
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Why do you object to Nestle selling baby food in poor countries? Just curious. I also think boycotts are a good, democratic, market based way to keep businesses in line.
A number of reasons, all of which can be found easily on the web (search Nestlé Boycott) - infant formula (baby milk) needs to be made with pure water in sterile containers and bottles - two conditions that difficult to obtain in poorer countries. The problem is compounded when the mothers are illiterate and cannot read the mixing and feeding instructions or are literate but the instructions are not printed in their native language. Infant formula is also expensive resulting in mothers mixing weaker solutions to make a tin of powder last longer, resulting in the infant receiving less nutrition than it requires. Breast feeding builds up a childs immune system, infant formula does not, especially when it is made in weak concentrations and in unhealthy conditions - "UNICEF estimates that a formula-fed child living in disease-ridden and unhygienic conditions is between six and 25 times more likely to die of diarrhea and four times more likely to die of pneumonia than a breastfed child" - the WHO estimates diarrhea kills 1.5 million infants under the age of 5 each year.
 
None of that of course is directly the fault of Nestlé , what we are boycotting is their aggressive marketing strategies in those poorer countries. Other milk formula producers comply with the WHA  Resolution 34.22 which includes the International Code of Marketing of Breast-milk Substitutes, Nestlé continue to work around that code.
 
Nestlé does not push infant formula onto mothers, it used to give out free "samples" while the mothers were in the maternity wards, once they started using the formula instead of breast feeding they would stop lactating and on leaving hospital the tins of formula were no longer free... as far as I know they have stopped this practice - however like all "big pharma" it pushes it onto doctors and midwives by "providing incentives, such as gifts and trips"
 
 
 
 
...this is no small sacrifice on my part - I used to love Kit-Kat and would eat several bars a week - even after 22 years I can still remember what they taste like, the joy of running your thumb-nail down the foil wrapper between the fingers of chocolate coated wafer and the 'snap' noise when you break them apart.


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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

That division among side of ponds exists and is healthy. I am so happy there's freedom of peach here. Thus I live here. Nobody asks 21st-century-Europeans to like it or understand it. Just as Europeans probably don't listen when Americans express their views of Europe and what may make it (in their views) a decaying continent. What many people don't like here is the blurring of this divide and the more common calls for these values to be adopted. And I agree with the vote with your feet idea, though one of the goals of the federal government is to stop one's ability to do so by applying their regulations and policies in every inch of the country. 
 
We have freedom's a peach, (I think we invented it) we just don't make a big fuss over it - what we have lost is the right to smack someone in the mouth for being offensive. If someone wants to be offensive I will let them, however I'm not inclinded to make it easy for them and I certainly would not give them a platform to do it or refrain from heckling or attempting to otherwise disrupt their attempts to say what they want to say - I believe that is my right.
 
While our limitations appear to be more rigid than those in the USA, they are along similar lines, just more clearly defined in statute law, though even in the USA you have similar limitations [eg obscenity, defamation, incitement, incitement to riot or imminent lawless action, fighting words, fraud, and speech integral to criminal conduct... the list goes on - no one has unrestricted freedom of speech].
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

So, bigotry is okay if it tastes good?


You support bigotry and nasty things every time you purchase anything. There's a tradeoff involved. People can decide for themselves what causes they support and how.

My problem is that people have overreacted to this story because something which ubiquitously happens has been thrust to the front of their awareness. Libertarians always get accused of throwing the baby out with the bath water for what I would view as much more serious moral ineptitude on the part of the government. I'm now reciprocating that criticism.
Mmm. Sure it is much better to vote with your feet rather than have some elected offical make that decision for you - for myself I have been boycotting Nestlé products for 22 years on an issue of principle - I think that is the democratic way of voicing your disaproval, even if it is ineffectual and completely ignored - I can take the moral highground, even if the rest of the world continues to spend $85 billon per year on their products, as long as they continue to aggressively market infant formula in the less economically developed countries.
 
From what I gather the mayor suggested the Chick-a-fil reconciders their plans to open a franchise in his town - that's not a ban or any offical block on the company opening resturant - Cathy could chose to ignore the Menino's suggestion. I don't know what the local reaction to the story is (anything else is immaterial really), but in this thread I see reactions from "both sides" and of course the old "freedom's a peach" defense that we simple don't get (ie understand) this side of the pond [I'll defend no one's right to say what they like - they want to say something offensive then they have no help from me, and I sure as hell don't expect they'll ever defend my right].


As long as he's expressing his opinion as a person and not as the Mayor, I'm fine with that. Personally, I think he should not have included the title in his name when he wrote the letter because of the inconsequential nature of his mayoralty in this matter. Even that though, I don't really care as long as he does not try to use the arm of the law to enforce his suggestion should Chick-fil-a kindly deny it. I haven't really suggested anything negative in what the Mayor did.

Your opinion of freedom of speech sits just fine with me. I only have issue when people go around with clubs because someone's mouthing off in a way upsetting to them.
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Police officer fired for making racist remark at baseball game.  http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8202374/cop-fired-slurring-carl-crawford-boston-red-sox  I've never heard about this comment being racist before.


"Perrault has been on paid leave since he called Crawford a "Monday" before a July 5 minor league game in Manchester, N.H.

The word is considered a racial slur when associated with the phrase, "I hate Mondays.""


So Garfield is a racist? Seriously, I have never heard this usage before and can't see anything racist (or even racial) about it.



Urban dictionary does have a 2007 entry describing it as a euphemism for the hard N. Now Urban Dictionary might have a very high false positive rate with that statistic so take it with a grain of salt.
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Corporations aren't inherently unethical but they are dedicated to making a profit regardless of consequences.  Good regulation is how you keep them in line.


Good regulation make them unsuccessful. And not all are unethical, I can't even think of one unethical example off the top of my head.
For Slarti, profits themselves are unethical. Wink


I assumed as much. LOL
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Philadelphia joins the bandwagon. We do one better. We're going to make legislation!

If they take my hot morning, after gym, unsweetened Chick-fil-a Iced tea away from me, then I will be upset.



EDIT: I don't support laws for opposite sex marriage either so don't waste your time calling me a bigot or whatevs.


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I dare you to send him a Chick-fil-A gift certificate.  LOL
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

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I've never understood exactly what "African-American culture" is.




I have a black kid, a Hispanic kid, a white kid, and a Native American kid in the same classroom.  Four different races, but you know what?  They dress the same, they speak the same way, they listen to the same music, they eat the same foods, they celebrate the same holidays, and they do pretty much the same things for fun. 

So don't tell me we're multicultural.  We're multiracial.  That is all.
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I do support same-sex marriage, and I think that it's inappropriate for politicians to attempt to ban a business because of the owner's opinion.
 
If people don't like the business because of that, they won't go there.
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How do you stand on building the Muslim church next door to Ground Zero?  A similar yet different analogy I would think.
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Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

I do support same-sex marriage, and I think that it's inappropriate for politicians to attempt to ban a business because of the owner's opinion.
 



Likewise, I don't believe in same-sex marriage, but I think it's inappropriate for politicians to ban them.  Why do we allow them the power to define marriage for us?  It's ridiculous.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

How do you stand on building the Muslim church next door to Ground Zero?  A similar yet different analogy I would think.


They have every right to do so, but personally I find it in bad taste.
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They have every right to do so, but personally I find it in bad taste.


This is the idea I'm trying to get people to understand.  Just because you are personally for or against something doesn't mean we should try to legislate it.
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Sometimes I hate the people who write copy for news sites. Dead
Originally posted by Foxnews.com Foxnews.com wrote:


Did Officials Run A'fowl' With Threat
Over Exec's Gay Marriage Opinion?

Fast-food chain Chick-fil-A under fire for company chief's gay marriage comments — but with free speech and jobs on line, do threatening big city officials have a drumstick to stand on?


I know I am opening the floodgates to Fox bashing, but don't pretend they are the only ones who abuse puns like this.




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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

How do you stand on building the Muslim church next door to Ground Zero?  A similar yet different analogy I would think.


They have every right to do so, but personally I find it in bad taste.
Innocent muslims died in the WTC attacks and there are already islamic mosques in the local neighbourhood. Not all muslims are terrorists.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

How do you stand on building the Muslim church next door to Ground Zero?  A similar yet different analogy I would think.


They have every right to do so, but personally I find it in bad taste.
Innocent muslims died in the WTC attacks and there are already islamic mosques in the local neighbourhood. Not all muslims are terrorists.


No one said they were. It would be in similarly bad taste to open a Black Metal record store near a church that had been burned down by one of the bands, even though not all Black Metal musicians burn down churches. Why is that so hard to understand?
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