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So, we are complaining about a Major, a political figure, getting involved in politics. Complaining about a business that should have nothing to do with politics getting invloved in politics? Is that the jist of this?

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That's good then.

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^ Has the noise turned you Cockney?

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Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Dean wrote:

So, bigotry is okay if it tastes good?

You support bigotry and nasty things every time you purchase anything. There's a tradeoff involved. People can decide for themselves what causes they support and how.

My problem is that people have overreacted to this story because something which ubiquitously happens has been thrust to the front of their awareness. Libertarians always get accused of throwing the baby out with the bath water for what I would view as much more serious moral ineptitude on the part of the government. I'm now reciprocating that criticism.

Mmm. Sure it is much better to vote with your feet rather than have some elected offical make that decision for you - for myself I have been boycotting Nestlé products for 22 years on an issue of principle - I think that is the democratic way of voicing your disaproval, even if it is ineffectual and completely ignored - I can take the moral highground, even if the rest of the world continues to spend $85 billon per year on their products, as long as they continue to aggressively market infant formula in the less economically developed countries.

From what I gather the mayor suggested the Chick-a-fil reconciders their plans to open a franchise in his town - that's not a ban or any offical block on the company opening resturant - Cathy could chose to ignore the Menino's suggestion. I don't know what the local reaction to the story is (anything else is immaterial really), but in this thread I see reactions from "both sides" and of course the old "freedom's a peach" defense that we simple don't get (ie understand) this side of the pond [I'll defend no one's right to say what they like - they want to say something offensive then they have no help from me, and I sure as hell don't expect they'll ever defend my right].

What?

I don't buy into the notion that every time you purchase anything you support bigotry and nasty things. In the end corporations are soulless killing machines dedicated to delivering profit regardless of who gets hurt. In the end all you can do is not buy whatever they are producing if you have a choice. I was aware of what Nestle has done with the baby formula thanks to the real liberal media.

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Slartibartfast wrote:

In the end corporations are soulless killing machines.

Well corporations might be soulless and usually an eqsy target since many of them abuse the system and benefit from daddy Government but there are many good things about their existence.

thellama73 wrote:

Why do you object to Nestle selling baby food in poor countries? Just curious. I also think boycotts are a good, democratic, market based way to keep businesses in line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott

https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays

Slartibartfast wrote:

Corporations aren't inherently unethical but they are dedicated to making a profit regardless of consequences. Good regulation is how you keep them in line.

Good regulation make them unsuccessful. And not all are unethical, I can't even think of one unethical example off the top of my head.

Edited by The Truth - July 26 2012 at 13:43

The Truth wrote:

Slartibartfast wrote:

Corporations aren't inherently unethical but they are dedicated to making a profit regardless of consequences. Good regulation is how you keep them in line.

Good regulation make them unsuccessful. And not all are unethical, I can't even think of one unethical example off the top of my head.

For Slarti, profits themselves are unethical. Wink

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Why do you object to Nestle selling baby food in poor countries? Just curious. I also think boycotts are a good, democratic, market based way to keep businesses in line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott

It sounds like all the complaints are with the mothers misusing the product rather than with the product itself.