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The T wrote: Most media is controlled by the left and those who think like Slarti so I'm not sure what is the point here. Since Slarti is always trying to attack conservatives, whites, republicans, I'm not sure who he is implying that will give this idiot murderer a pass.

Dean wrote: Fox/News International/News Corporation are lefties?  Holy crap what does it take to be right wing in the USA now a days?

I suggest you Dean to come to the US and watch American tv. From the Uk you probably can't. CNN, Nbc, Cbs, Abc, and minor stations always lean left. FoxNews is the only one that leans right. Also, printed media like the Ny Times or Washington Post.

I lso suggest re-reading my post and looking at the word "most" which clearly will tell you I didn't mean "all".

Here in American TV news are never news. I agree with Smurph.

Smurph wrote: 90% of reporters are not good reporters.

To be fair, 90% of people in every occupation are bad at their job.

Finnforest wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/editorials/article/Tragedy-shows-need-for-gun-control-3723694.php As expected.  If someone could make the case how these laws would actually get the guns away from criminals and prevent them from buying illegally, please explain.  How does it make us safer to remove guns from people who would comply with the new laws, while the bad guys roar uproariously with laughter.  Educate me.

What you are saying here has frustrated legitimate, responsible gun owners for years. Criminals don't care about new gun laws because the job description of their chosen profession is to break the law. In fact, criminals like gun control laws because it makes their job easier by making their victims more vulnerable. Gun haters don't like it but tens of  thousands of crimes are prevented every year because the intended victim was armed.

Interestingly enough homicides/murders in this country have gone to a 30year low and we don't carry guns. Of course USA is very different as you are starting from a position where people own guns already.

So this is why I'm skint!

Slartibartfast wrote: GaryB wrote: Criminals don't care about new gun laws because the job description of their chosen profession is to break the law. In fact, criminals like gun control laws because it makes their job easier by making their victims more vulnerable. Actually criminals love our lack of gun control laws because they can get their hands on all kinds of weapons.

Exactly!  Just like drug dealers like our lack of drug laws because they can get their hands on all kinds of drugs!

Oh wait.

Slartibartfast wrote: Happiness is a warm gun. Even better if you are also hopped up on drugs. The NRA opposes even the most reasonable restrictions on gun ownership.  I think people should be allowed guns for hunting and self defense.  And the second amendment is about a well regulated militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

The independent clause of this sentence is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."  Syntactically, that is the main idea of amendment.

It is not independent it is entirely dependent.  When you single out "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." you are taking things out of context. It's bullcrap like that which have stymied sensible gun control laws. 

But if you want to go back to original intent, the weapons of the day were muskets.  Bloodletting was healthcare, we have the right to own slaves but for voting purposes they are only 3/5'ths of a person...


Edited by Slartibartfast - July 22 2012 at 07:37