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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:03
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Just got a call for my first paid live sound gig. Neat? Neat. Now as soon as I get off my ass and start writing music again, I'll be a busy bee. 4 music-related projects? Me gusta.
 
I refuse to work on other music projects. If anyone else in my band wants to, they must ask me first.
 
Why would anyone want to work on other projects other than just one? I don't know if I could work on something else because of the amount of time I put into the current one.

Or is that the goal? To find such a project that you don't ever want to do anything else?
 
But dude- congrats!!!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:06
I could see working on other projects once your main project gets underway, or if it looks like the main project isn't going anywhere.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:13
But if the main project isn't going anywhere change it. Work harder. Change it more. If you choose projects that allow you to do literally whatever you want that should never be the problem. The problem then is no longer with the project. The problem is with the people involved with the project. Or if your main project is under way, why not start working on an extra demo for the same project. If it doesn't sound enough like your main project, screw it. Because don't let sound hold you back. Your band doesn't like it? Make it better. They still don't like it? Make it even better. They still don't like it and want to keep it seperate? Then you didn't make it good enough. Make it better.
 
 
 
I'm also semi-joking because I know not everyone is willing to do certain stuff. Ha


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:30

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:34
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That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.

 
Yea- that's REALLY weird. haha. What an ego-hogging a-hole you would have to be to do that. I mean, are they just going out of their way to reduce the royalties for their band? I mean dude- Those guys are both millionaires. I would be slapping my bands name on my solo work even if they didnt help just so I can continue to help them out as my buddies.
 
But I guess it makes sense cause in the end Tom Petty really just wants to suck his own peepee as does Bruce.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:35
Or what its saying is "Hey this is me without a filter. Now I can have an excuse as to why this album is not as good as my others."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:36
Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Just got a call for my first paid live sound gig. Neat? Neat. Now as soon as I get off my ass and start writing music again, I'll be a busy bee. 4 music-related projects? Me gusta.
 
I refuse to work on other music projects. If anyone else in my band wants to, they must ask me first.
 
Why would anyone want to work on other projects other than just one? I don't know if I could work on something else because of the amount of time I put into the current one.

Or is that the goal? To find such a project that you don't ever want to do anything else?
 
But dude- congrats!!!!

1 - paid live sound gig for a presentation or something (one time thing)
2 - unpaid live sound gig for a church (multiple days of the week)
3 - write music for my friend's short film
4 - write music for web series (as of now nothing else to work on yet)
5 - write music for personal side project

I'm lazing on the writing music part. Need some motivation, but still. I think I've got a lto of good things underway.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:36
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.


I find those types of things annoying. If the line-up is like exactly the same, why make a solo release out of it? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:42
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Just got a call for my first paid live sound gig. Neat? Neat. Now as soon as I get off my ass and start writing music again, I'll be a busy bee. 4 music-related projects? Me gusta.
 
I refuse to work on other music projects. If anyone else in my band wants to, they must ask me first.
 
Why would anyone want to work on other projects other than just one? I don't know if I could work on something else because of the amount of time I put into the current one.

Or is that the goal? To find such a project that you don't ever want to do anything else?
 
But dude- congrats!!!!

1 - paid live sound gig for a presentation or something (one time thing)
2 - unpaid live sound gig for a church (multiple days of the week)
3 - write music for my friend's short film
4 - write music for web series (as of now nothing else to work on yet)
5 - write music for personal side project

I'm lazing on the writing music part. Need some motivation, but still. I think I've got a lto of good things underway.
 
 
OOOOH I see. The whole "sound gig" thing bypassed my brain. That's awesome. You mean running a live soundboard haha. I processed it as something else like a tard. For some reason I was picturing you playing in 5 different bands going ... "WHA?" haha
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:42
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.


I find those types of things annoying. If the line-up is like exactly the same, why make a solo release out of it? 
I dislike it from a Last.FM aspect.  Instead of having 400 Tom Petty plays, I have 200 Tom Petty plays and 200 Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker plays, and I really don't differentiate between the two. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:43
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.


I find those types of things annoying. If the line-up is like exactly the same, why make a solo release out of it? 
 
Peter Hammil did it and it kicked ass. Haha. But I think he had other reasons.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:44
Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.


I find those types of things annoying. If the line-up is like exactly the same, why make a solo release out of it? 
 
Peter Hammil did it and it kicked ass. Haha. But I think he had other reasons.


I was about to say this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:46
Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.


I find those types of things annoying. If the line-up is like exactly the same, why make a solo release out of it? 
 
Peter Hammil did it and it kicked ass. Haha. But I think he had other reasons.
To an extent, but they aren't known as Peter Hammill and the Van der Graaf Generators.  So there is a bit of a difference. 
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^Point taken. :-D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:54
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.


I find those types of things annoying. If the line-up is like exactly the same, why make a solo release out of it? 

I'm pretty sure the lineup is different, even though the heartbreakers do help. Songwriting is very similar though (especially on Full Moon Fever). I'm pretty sure songs form his "solo" and band career both get mixed onto the same greatest hits albums.

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Or what its saying is "Hey this is me without a filter. Now I can have an excuse as to why this album is not as good as my others."

Actually, imo Petty's best album (Wildflowers) is solo. (And probably the most truly solo of the bunch, I'd say)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:58
Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.


I find those types of things annoying. If the line-up is like exactly the same, why make a solo release out of it? 

I'm pretty sure the lineup is different, even though the heartbreakers do help. Songwriting is very similar though (especially on Full Moon Fever). I'm pretty sure songs form his "solo" and band career both get mixed onto the same greatest hits albums.

Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Or what its saying is "Hey this is me without a filter. Now I can have an excuse as to why this album is not as good as my others."

Actually, imo Petty's best album (Wildflowers) is solo. (And probably the most truly solo of the bunch, I'd say)
Full Moon Fever is my favorite, and it is solo.   Mike Campbell is the guitar player on it as well as the Heartbreakers, but Jeff Lynne plays keyboards instead of the Heartbreaker's keyboardist, and there is a different drummer and numerous guests.  Wildflowers actually has all of the Heartbreakers on it, plus some additional musicians.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:58
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.


I find those types of things annoying. If the line-up is like exactly the same, why make a solo release out of it? 
 
Peter Hammil did it and it kicked ass. Haha. But I think he had other reasons.


I was about to say this.


I think Hammill gave himself more freedom on his solo discs.  VdGG was a fairly successful band, and people kind of knew what to expect from them.  The solo albums are where Hammill experimented with new things.  I generally like them better for that reason.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:59
The album features all members of the Heartbreakers with the exception of drummer Stan Lynch, who left (or got fired by) the band earlier in 1994. Steve Ferrone plays drums on Wildflowers and would join the band officially the following year. However, the album was not credited to the Heartbreakers because, in Petty's words, "Rick (Rubin) and I both wanted more freedom than to be strapped into five guys."[3] Freedom notwithstanding, Petty chose to use most of his regular band as session players, demonstrating his comfort with that format. Rolling Stone placed Wildflowers at number twelve on their list of the best albums of the nineties.[4]
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I haven't heard "Wildflowers".  I was a fairly big Petty fan for a while in the late 80s, but by "Great Wide Open" I'd just stopped listening to him, no real reason why.  But I like the albums "Torpedoes" through "Full Moon Fever" a lot.  Never heard the first two albums either.  I'll check out the ones I missed sometime.  I've been re-listening to the albums I know recently and they're still good.
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

That kind of makes me laugh.  Listening to my collection of Tom Petty CDs, and I think that it is kind of funny that he has released 3 solo albums without the Heartbreakers.  It is kind of like, dude, that band is called Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  You don't need to release a solo album.  Especially, since I believe that the Heartbreakers contribute to some of his solo material anyways (don't quote me on that though).  I think that Bruce Springsteen has release a solo album too.  I am sure that there have been other similar "solo" releases.


I find those types of things annoying. If the line-up is like exactly the same, why make a solo release out of it? 
 
Peter Hammil did it and it kicked ass. Haha. But I think he had other reasons.


I was about to say this.


I think Hammill gave himself more freedom on his solo discs.  VdGG was a fairly successful band, and people kind of knew what to expect from them.  The solo albums is where Hammill experimented with new things.  I generally like them better for that reason.
 
 
Freedom is always better. And I want to see famous bands be so crazy that they can literally do whatever they want.
 
But yea Silent Corner and Empty Stage is genius.
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