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The biggest disgrace of music history: the way the radio stations took control of music by giving what people want. You can't trust radio and people who listen to music only by radio.
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Posted: July 02 2012 at 16:09
I could agree with most people regarding Mad Donna apart from one thing.
Ray Of Light.
It's a good album - great music - sensible lyrics - no sexual overtones - probably her only really grown-up album. It's not Chopin, but it's not a disgrace.
I may be slightly mad, but I rather like songs like Lucky Star, Get Into the Groove and Vogue, if only for some kitschy nostalgic reasons. I do however think she has portrayed the modern female pop star in a way that only seeks to replicate itself infinitely. Maybe not her fault, but it sure is getting tiresome. Latest is Lady GuGu, although she's mixed the Madonna quotient with one part Marilyn Manson one part David Bowie to establish some kind of sexy androgenous superstar. Oh well she can play the piano.
My point is that originality seems to be external these days. Not much ado about the actual music, and the Madonnas sure had a huge helping hand in that feat.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Posted: July 02 2012 at 16:42
Guldbamsen wrote:
I may be slightly mad, but I rather like songs like Lucky Star, Get Into the Groove and Vogue, if only for some kitschy nostalgic reasons. I do however think she has portrayed the modern female pop star in a way that only seeks to replicate itself infinitely. Maybe not her fault, but it sure is getting tiresome. Latest is Lady GuGu, although she's mixed the Madonna quotient with one part Marilyn Manson one part David Bowie to establish some kind of sexy androgenous superstar. Oh well she can play the piano. My point is that originality seems to be external these days. Not much ado about the actual music, and the Madonnas sure had a huge helping hand in that feat.
Well, there you go - you've named four pop stars who created a stage persona then acted it out in real life - while that in itself is a rare talent (many try and many fail), it is still nothing without the goods to back it up and I think all four of them managed that with ease.
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Posted: July 05 2012 at 17:05
crimson87 wrote:
I think that the biggest disgraces in musical industry are
1 Madonna. She has no real talent and infuenced loads of female pop singers that have nothing but good looks.
2 Punk Rock. They have no technical prowness whatsoever and also rely on image and attitude. They basically killed all the attempts of making something relatively complex with rock music.
3 Nirvana. While I liked the band when I was a teenager and I still do I realized that their influence was negative because they put the last nail in the coffin of rock music.
1. Agree with the good looks but I think Madonna, along with Michael Jackson is what is the most present in popular music today.
2. I love the lyrics of early punk rock. And also, it is a genre of music that can be complex. For example, the Cardiacs.
3. I love Nirvana. And they didn't put the last nail in the coffin in rock music.
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Stop hating on Madonna. She is far from the worst in music. True Blue is fantastic pop album.
Stop hating on punk rock, too. Sometimes I want something more immediate than what prog delivers. It is not all "image and attitude", no more than prog is (or rap, or country, etc.).
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Posted: July 14 2012 at 18:33
catfood03 wrote:
Stop hating on punk rock, too. Sometimes I want something more immediate than what prog delivers. It is not all "image and attitude", no more than prog is (or rap, or country, etc.).
I agree completely. While the initial ideology of some of the more radicals was beyond stupid, there is a ton of great punk music out there: Fugazi, Refused, Dead Kennedys, there would be no Naked City if it weren't for punk.
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