"Freedom" thread or something

Equality 7-2521 wrote: I can't imagine what a blame America version of history looks like. I remember it being rammed down my throat from grade school to college how we helped the Japenese by nuking them and how slavery wasn't that bad.

What? Really? Slavery wasn't that bad? They really said that? Really? I'm extremely skeptical. But if they did actually say that and you're not just massively exaggerating, then that's not the norm at all.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: manofmystery wrote: I'd gladly go to Hershey but I'm not a roller coaster fan.  I like all my organs where they're supposed to be, thank you. This pretty much. If my body's going to be subjected to unnatural g-forces then it'll be when I'm in a ship leaving preparing to leave the gravitational pull of the Earth.

Gosh yall are no fun :(

Yeah I may have to agree with Anthony.
Of course there are bound to be wild swings and differences even in university departments, but generally people seem to think the 'other' side is being taught. Which is a good thing, that does imply that perhaps the "agenda" isn't as biased as it may be thought.

However, absolutely a pro government, pro president agenda is taught. That is pretty obvious.


Edited by JJLehto - July 02 2012 at 17:09

The T wrote: This has nothing to do with this thread but anyway, cartoon thread it is. A great Argentinian cartoonist: Translation: 1. Legs 2. Brain 3. Human contact 4. Culture 5. Ideals. Morals. Honesty. 6. Thy neighbour whom to love 7. God 8. It's important that he learns how things are from an early age.

Nope, all that German I took did bupkis it seems.
Was still simple enough to figure out though.

I do like that kind of cartoon, or anything that focuses on the failures of individuals and/or humanity.
So bleak :D

I just find it kind of funny that everyone has disregarded it already and is back to "we gon beat this thing."

Not that I mind since I find the SC a little scary, (and forgive my noobness but is there even a constitutional basis for even having a supreme court?). So yeah, after being upheld the GOP is still trying to get it repealed.
If they were ever successful, which I doubt, wouldn't it be bound to get back to SC and probably be upheld again?

I think this is like every other government program, once enacted it's here to stay.

King of Loss wrote: I find it hilarious that the masses would give up so much of their liberties for more free stuff. Figures!

Which of course, isn't free and never was.

The Doctor wrote: Damn those Democrats for taking away my freedom to die because I'm too poor to pay for health care.

Well, Robert, I didn't read the whole thing obviously.  Seemed a bit too long as I'm trying to get my drink on.  However, I did read part of it and do agree that overuse of medical services is a large part of rising health care costs. I always want to smack people I know when they go to the doctor for a cold to get antibiotics and so forth.  But, the problem there is not just caused by patients, but also by the doctors who actually prescribe antibiotics for colds.  Some people may be dumb enough to think that antibiotics will actually help a cold, but a doctor knows better (if he doesn't he shouldn't be practicing medicine).  Doctors do nothing to discourage the overuse of medical services, in fact, sometimes they demand it.  A little personal anecdote...I have both high blood pressure and a mild case of asthma.  That means I need maintenance medications.  I had a doctor recently who demanded that I see him every three months to get my prescriptions renewed and go through blood work, etc. when I needed more medicine.  As I monitor my blood pressure at home, I didn't really see a need for the expense of seeing him every three months and going through tests, etc. every time I wanted a renewal of my prescription.  I, of course, found a different doctor who did not require that, but my point remains that some doctors encourage that behavior and some of the responsibility for that must lie with them. 

Of course, as the author points out, some of that may in fact be due to a cya attitude when it comes to malpractice, but I think there is also a large greed factor there.  The more patients they see, the more money they make. 

I'm not saying there should be unlimited health care for all, in the sense that I get to see a doctor 365 days a year if I so choose, there should be benefit limits, especially when it comes to minor things.  But I do think everyone has the right to basic coverage for medical emergencies, life-threatening illnesses and necessary prescription drugs.  And a huge part of the responsibility for seeing that patients do not abuse their benefits comes from the doctors. 


Edited by The Doctor - July 03 2012 at 20:19

On another note:

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Remember the US doesn't give freedom to everyone when you eat your hot dogs and burgers today.