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Yeah, there are thousands of towels blowing across the states these days, like large, aimless terry cloth tumble weeds, cause no one can find the clothespins to hang them up.
And there you have the theme for the FK's next album....Voyage of the Textiles.....LOL
Aye and we call them clothespins - "pegs"....
Opening track - "The Grand Parade of lifeless underwear".......Big smile

Or what about a single epic song that takes the whole CD up, it could be called The Whirlwind (of lost clothes).

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 Aye - but if Stolte was to take up the theme I'm sure he'd have to mention "Magdelenes Panties" or perhaps Cain's combinations.......maybe even Jesus' jockstrap! Tongue

*snirk*  Cosmic Love Flower Knickers
And there was me using "Panties" because I thought that the americanos didn't refer to ladies nether-garments as "Knickers"......

Ahh, a wise man once said, panties not the best thing in life . . . but next to it.

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This is what I love about this thread.  Would you honestly get this^ on any "Appreciation" thread.  I think not.

Yeah, we kind of went on a tangent there, no?
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Roj - Any thoughts?

 
Sorry it took so long to post, fates conspiring and all that.
 
Well, after two listens I have to say I'm impressed.  I'd tried to not expect too much and I think that was the best bet.  Of the shorter tracks I like Pandemonium best - great song.  For The Love of Gold hasn't moved me that much yet (unlike the majority) nice synth motif from Tomas though.  However, the real ace in the hole has got to be Numbers, which made an instant impression on me.  Wow.  On first spin it's just that lovely feeling, pure bliss, the boys are back and this sounds great.  On second spin I was shocked at how much of it I remembered from the first listen.  The main theme is stuck in my head as I speak.  And as for Roine's solo about the 11-12 min mark, breathtakingly brilliant Clap
 
54 minutes long and easily their shortest main disc from any album.  It seems to work though.  Perhaps the shorter running time aids digestion, just like Gaviscon Cool.
 
As for the bonus disc, Illuminati is a nice Blade of Cain-esque (bible again Barney Wink) instro and I've really enjoyed Lolines so far too. 
 
Overall, Roine's playing is sublime, the vocals are great and the production hits the spot too. Whilst I know I'll have to hear it a few more times to decide roughly where BoE will sit in the TFK pantheon, initial impressions are very positive.
 
Finally, kudos to Anthony and Jeff for their reviewsClap.  It's nice to have collabs in our midst who actually appreciate TFK.  Nice review from Barney too!  I'll get round to one in time, not that it'll make much difference to the ratings.  4.2 eh?  That won't last long, once the gnashing hounds sink their teeth into it Ouch.  Make sure nobody sends a copy to Sean Trane please.  If they're going to, please put a Harmonium sticker or something over the label on it and he'll give it the full five!!!
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I wasn't impressed with Roine's guitar playing, it wasn't bad or anything. I was hoping for more unique playing - guess that is what I get for being a massive TMV fan and having Omar top my Best Guitarist Lists.
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I wasn't impressed with Roine's guitar playing, it wasn't bad or anything. I was hoping for more unique playing - guess that is what I get for being a massive TMV fan and having Omar top my Best Guitarist Lists.

LOL  Yeah, if you go into a Flower Kings CD with expectations of Omar, you're pretty much setting yourself up for disappointment.  That's kind of like saying 'You know, I kind of like IQ but really wish their Zeuhl influences would be more prominent'.
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I wasn't impressed with Roine's guitar playing, it wasn't bad or anything. I was hoping for more unique playing - guess that is what I get for being a massive TMV fan and having Omar top my Best Guitarist Lists.

LOL  Yeah, if you go into a Flower Kings CD with expectations of Omar, you're pretty much setting yourself up for disappointment.  That's kind of like saying 'You know, I kind of like IQ but really wish their Zeuhl influences would be more prominent'.



Roine is the Eric Clapton of Prog.  It's true.


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Originally posted by Roj M30 Roj M30 wrote:

Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

 
Roj - Any thoughts?

 
Sorry it took so long to post, fates conspiring and all that.
 
Well, after two listens I have to say I'm impressed.  I'd tried to not expect too much and I think that was the best bet.  Of the shorter tracks I like Pandemonium best - great song.  For The Love of Gold hasn't moved me that much yet (unlike the majority) nice synth motif from Tomas though.  However, the real ace in the hole has got to be Numbers, which made an instant impression on me.  Wow.  On first spin it's just that lovely feeling, pure bliss, the boys are back and this sounds great.  On second spin I was shocked at how much of it I remembered from the first listen.  The main theme is stuck in my head as I speak.  And as for Roine's solo about the 11-12 min mark, breathtakingly brilliant Clap
 
54 minutes long and easily their shortest main disc from any album.  It seems to work though.  Perhaps the shorter running time aids digestion, just like Gaviscon Cool.
 
As for the bonus disc, Illuminati is a nice Blade of Cain-esque (bible again Barney Wink) instro and I've really enjoyed Lolines so far too. 
 
Overall, Roine's playing is sublime, the vocals are great and the production hits the spot too. Whilst I know I'll have to hear it a few more times to decide roughly where BoE will sit in the TFK pantheon, initial impressions are very positive.
 
Finally, kudos to Anthony and Jeff for their reviewsClap.  It's nice to have collabs in our midst who actually appreciate TFK.  Nice review from Barney too!  I'll get round to one in time, not that it'll make much difference to the ratings.  4.2 eh?  That won't last long, once the gnashing hounds sink their teeth into it Ouch.  Make sure nobody sends a copy to Sean Trane please.  If they're going to, please put a Harmonium sticker or something over the label on it and he'll give it the full five!!!
Mr Trane will review without hearing it first - why break the habit of a lifetime? LOL Wonder why Roine didn't just put the four bonus tracks on CD1 - and take it to the usual length? In the current format track 2 could have been extended with a church organ solo and then a church organ / Stolte duet lasting 10 minutes and then we would have had two epics....Big smile
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Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

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Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

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Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

Yeah, there are thousands of towels blowing across the states these days, like large, aimless terry cloth tumble weeds, cause no one can find the clothespins to hang them up.
And there you have the theme for the FK's next album....Voyage of the Textiles.....LOL
Aye and we call them clothespins - "pegs"....
Opening track - "The Grand Parade of lifeless underwear".......Big smile

Or what about a single epic song that takes the whole CD up, it could be called The Whirlwind (of lost clothes).

Beer
 Aye - but if Stolte was to take up the theme I'm sure he'd have to mention "Magdelenes Panties" or perhaps Cain's combinations.......maybe even Jesus' jockstrap! Tongue

*snirk*  Cosmic Love Flower Knickers
And there was me using "Panties" because I thought that the americanos didn't refer to ladies nether-garments as "Knickers"......

Ahh, a wise man once said, panties not the best thing in life . . . but next to it.

Ho ho ho - you CRACK me up.......LOL
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I wasn't impressed with Roine's guitar playing, it wasn't bad or anything. I was hoping for more unique playing - guess that is what I get for being a massive TMV fan and having Omar top my Best Guitarist Lists.

LOL  Yeah, if you go into a Flower Kings CD with expectations of Omar, you're pretty much setting yourself up for disappointment.  That's kind of like saying 'You know, I kind of like IQ but really wish their Zeuhl influences would be more prominent'.
Roine is the Eric Clapton of Prog.  It's true.


Now that you mention it, that does make a lot of sense. I saw Clapton live (with a buddy's family who I tagged along with) and it was really impressive. About halfway through the show, he did an acoustic set and did this unbelievable acoustic solo. Also, Roger Daltrey was the opening act with Townshend's brother on guitar. Great show.
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man, i'm not even going to read all the 'new' TFK threads and posts.  just wanted to pop in and say i got BoE yesterday.  Numbers is a subtle masterpiece.  it is so exciting to have a new album from these dudes.  also love the bodin and roine helped write some stuff.  even though it is mastered kind of loud, the production is warm and very listenable.  all are in good, mature form.  oh, and our new drummer is very exciting.  he's tight.  
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Hey guys! Long been a massive fan of this thread (well, of the Flower Kings band itself in general lol ), so I thought you might like to read 4 x reviews of the album on the DPRP page :

http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201226.php

The main page also has a link to an interview with Roine, haven't read it yet myself, but now I have something to do during my dinner break at work!

Oh, and a totally random note, how freaking mind-blowingingly awesome is Bodin's keyboard solo at about the 24:55 mark on `The Truth Will Set You Free' from `Unfold The Future' ?!
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Anyway, I'm reet excited at the moment - what with the Higgs Boson discovery an all, I am working late tonight (software release), when I get home I shall listen to CD 2 of BOE....see if a second spin will titillate me more than the first spin...
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I wasn't impressed with Roine's guitar playing, it wasn't bad or anything. I was hoping for more unique playing - guess that is what I get for being a massive TMV fan and having Omar top my Best Guitarist Lists.


I thought you would have known Roine's style by now. He's not a wild player, or plays 'wrong' notes like Omar, but Roine improvises almost all of his solos. He's got all the rock tricks, plus his own bag of tricks, without ever diving into metal-styled playing. I thought his playing on BoE was some of his liveliest playing in some time (in regards to TFK).
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My favorite guitar moment on the new album is in Numbers. I don't recall the time frame, but it's kind of towards the end, with the BIG chord comes in on the second beat every time, the drums accent the cut off, and Roine is just wailing away. I get chills every time that part comes up. It's followed by, "And then the Numbers....."

You guys know what section I'm talking about?
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Hey guys! Long been a massive fan of this thread (well, of the Flower Kings band itself in general lol ), so I thought you might like to read 4 x reviews of the album on the DPRP page :

http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201226.php

The main page also has a link to an interview with Roine, haven't read it yet myself, but now I have something to do during my dinner break at work!

Oh, and a totally random note, how freaking mind-blowingingly awesome is Bodin's keyboard solo at about the 24:55 mark on `The Truth Will Set You Free' from `Unfold The Future' ?!

I'm, not too big on Bodin's solos (some feature that whole crazy-sounding whirlwind of synth noises), but I love that solo from TTWSYF. His playing on that album is the best out of all TFK albums. I'm just disappointed that you can't hear his crazy organ playing better on the Devil's Playground during the really fast rockin section.
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

My favorite guitar moment on the new album is in Numbers. I don't recall the time frame, but it's kind of towards the end, with the BIG chord comes in on the second beat every time, the drums accent the cut off, and Roine is just wailing away. I get chills every time that part comes up. It's followed by, "And then the Numbers....."

You guys know what section I'm talking about?

I am with you on that one one hundred percent Darkshade.  That section is absolutely brilliant, I wish they extended that part out for a bit longer, but yeah, that's one of the goosebump moments that bumps an album up a rating.  I don't think the Zappa-esque run at the end of the section quite does it justice, but that part in its own right is wonderful.
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I wasn't impressed with Roine's guitar playing, it wasn't bad or anything. I was hoping for more unique playing - guess that is what I get for being a massive TMV fan and having Omar top my Best Guitarist Lists.


I thought you would have known Roine's style by now. He's not a wild player, or plays 'wrong' notes like Omar, but Roine improvises almost all of his solos. He's got all the rock tricks, plus his own bag of tricks, without ever diving into metal-styled playing. I thought his playing on BoE was some of his liveliest playing in some time (in regards to TFK).

Yea, i knew he didn't have any astonishing characteristics to set him apart, but i was still hoping for a great guitar solo or a trace of an interesting tone manipulation. But honestly, i won't say i paid too much attention to him during my listens it was more a "background" conclusion. I'll give Numbers, Going Up, and Those Who.., a closer listen to see if any guitar parts captivate me. 
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Numbers had some of the best guitar parts.

You begin to realize Roine definitely has his own style going on once you hear a few albums he's on, especially if it's TFK or Transatlantic. Sure, he's influenced by Gilmour, Fripp, Zappa, Hackett, and Howe, but it's all in his phrasing that makes it Stolt's own.
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Roine's style is definitely unique. I don't really see how someone couldn't enjoy his playing. Boggles my mind, really. Different strokes for different folks?

Go to the 5:20 mark. In no way is that solo generic.

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I'm in the middle of listening to something else, but if that's the solo I'm thinking it is, then yea, that is one of the best. I also love his solo from The Sum of No Reason, near the end of the song. That whole album is magical.
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