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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2012 at 14:31
I don't know if having your jimmies rustled 24/7 is affecting your real life Brian, but it kiiiiinda seems to me like you're taking things a bit too personally/seriously/whateverly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2012 at 21:56
PA is on it's way to E-Verify and this is why it's moronic:
 
Republicans don't give two sh*ts about free markets.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2012 at 22:16
Hi. I'm young, so not that knowlegeable about polotics. So, what is the main jest of the Libritarian party? I, myself, am a centrist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 10:25
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Hi. I'm young, so not that knowlegeable about polotics. So, what is the main jest of the Libritarian party? I, myself, am a centrist.


I actually don't think any of us  in this thread are members of the Libertarian Party (I might be wrong.) Libertarianism with a small l is basically about giving individuals the maximum amount of control over their own lives and property provided that they do not infringe on the rights of others. We just love freedom, and oppose any attempts to take our freedoms away.

In practical terms, this means we oppose almost everything the federal government does.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 12:47
I was a member, not that it matters, but left to support Ron Paul in the primary.  Sadly, any real future for libertarianism seemingly has to take place within the "big two" structure".  Anyway, llama is basically correct.  There are issues libertarians disagree upon but we all, pretty much (I try to avoid speaking for others), believe that personal liberty and economic liberty are inseparable and should be left unmolested by government.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 12:56
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Opinions on this article about the greatest presidents in US history?


Anything that exposes Hoover and praises Coolidge is all right by me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 13:04

Here's a good article for our hip socialist friends (*cough* Slarti) to read:



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 13:26
^ Seems a bit out of date to me.  (As well as starting off with the usual premise that Socialism equals Comunism so why would any of the rest make any sense?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 17:14
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Opinions on this article about the greatest presidents in US history?


Anything that exposes Hoover and praises Coolidge is all right by me.




Same. Those lists always rank the "best" presidents as those who accomplished the most, regardless of the merit of such accomplishments. So FDR, Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt always do well because they did a lot of stuff, even though most of what they did was bad. A president like Cleveland who did little except stop congress from exceeding its authority are rarely praised, even though that's what I look for in a president.

From TV Tropes:
"[William Henry Harrison] is considered to be the greatest president in American history among anarchists, as his example of doing nothing and dying shortly after coming into office has yet to be equaled"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 19:29
Drew, that coming from you is like living in a glass house and throwing rocks with a cannon. I mean even you have to admit...you telling someone to not take things so personal?


Yes, yes yes...I know. "I'm mad bro/butthurt" because 5 years later that is still your response to everythingTongue
After all, why say anything of substance when you can lol at "my rustled jimmies" which btw I didn't know you tracked me 24/7. The internet IS my vent. That's why Im so calm IRL.


Anywho


I was a Democrat, switched to Republican to vote Paul in the primary, and will soon change to the only party that really represents me:

Independent

get it!? Because the only party that fits me is no party!

*slaps knees and chuckles heartily*


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 19:56
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

^ Seems a bit out of date to me.  (As well as starting off with the usual premise that Socialism equals Comunism so why would any of the rest make any sense?)
 
The point of the article is as valid today as when written.  Also, this little section invalidates your attempted semantic invalidation of the article: "Socialism has been failing since the ancient world. And since Mises's book Socialism (1922) we have understood that the precise reason is due to the economic impossibility of the emergence of social order in the absence of private property in the means of production."


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 21:08
Since a few of us live in the state of liberty, or close enough, when are we gunna have that Hershey Park trip for Freedom?

I just went and this ride is deceptively brutal


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 22:16
I'd gladly go to Hershey but I'm not a roller coaster fan.  I like all my organs where they're supposed to be, thank you.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 22:24
Oh you're such a sourpuss, who does't enjoy roller coasters?
Though that one did cause some very minor thigh pain because it is pretty much ripping you out of the car Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2012 at 23:24
I don't enjoy anything that moves my innards around like that.  I find rapid uncontrolled motion unpleasant.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 09:12
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

I'd gladly go to Hershey but I'm not a roller coaster fan.  I like all my organs where they're supposed to be, thank you.


This pretty much.

If my body's going to be subjected to unnatural g-forces then it'll be when I'm in a ship leaving preparing to leave the gravitational pull of the Earth.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 09:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 09:28
I like the idea as long as some hackney probabilistic argument does not come to replace our rights. It could be a great way to actually prevent crime and to cut the number of officers being employed.

Of course, rights will be violated and officers will not be cut so I don't know why I bother thinking positive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 09:31
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Opinions on this article about the greatest presidents in US history?


"Liberal ideology has never lacked for a warm dwelling place in the history departments of America's universities."

^ I'm so sick of sh*t like that. Liberals think that the schools teach a conservative "pro-America" view of history. Conservatives think that they teach a "blame America" view of history. Socialists think they teach a pro-capitalism view of history. Libertarians think that they teach a pro-federal government, horribly statist view of history.

Could it be that... none of those things are true? Perhaps, maybe, the truth lies somewhere in the middle? Shocked


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