The Biggest Disgrace In Music History

I try not to judge due to the fact that everybody starts somewhere and it is more "Horses for Courses" for me. Just because I don't like it does not mean that everything I play would be thought highly of either by the persons taste I am judging. "Judge not least thee be judged" Sometimes I like the poppy trash (bubblegum). Poor musician is a another matter and usually they don't last anyway because they will be caught out.

crimson87 wrote: I think that the biggest disgraces in musical industry are   1 Madonna. She has no real talent and infuenced loads of female pop singers that have nothing but good looks.   2 Punk Rock. They have no technical prowness whatsoever and also rely on image and attitude. They basically killed all the attempts of making something relatively complex with rock music.   3 Nirvana. While I liked the band when I was a teenager and I still do I realized that their influence was negative because they put the last nail in the coffin of rock music.

Edited by Codera the Great - July 02 2012 at 02:10

crimson87 wrote: I think that the biggest disgraces in musical industry are   1 Madonna. She has no real talent and infuenced loads of female pop singers that have nothing but good looks.   2 Punk Rock. They have no technical prowness whatsoever and also rely on image and attitude. They basically killed all the attempts of making something relatively complex with rock music.   3 Nirvana. While I liked the band when I was a teenager and I still do I realized that their influence was negative because they put the last nail in the coffin of rock music.

richardh wrote: crimson87 wrote: I think that the biggest disgraces in musical industry are   1 Madonna. She has no real talent and infuenced loads of female pop singers that have nothing but good looks.   2 Punk Rock. They have no technical prowness whatsoever and also rely on image and attitude. They basically killed all the attempts of making something relatively complex with rock music.   3 Nirvana. While I liked the band when I was a teenager and I still do I realized that their influence was negative because they put the last nail in the coffin of rock music.   Not sure about the punk rock one. The early bands such as The Stranglers and Sioixie and The Banshees were actually very good. Lack of technical prowess wasn't the issue it was more the destructove and simplistic attitude which was encouraged by the music press (that was the 'disgrace' in my view). Arguably though the best complex rock peices had already been created and by the time punk came prog was getting cliched and old hat. Punk and new wave forced a revaulation of musical approach which lead eventually to other things. ie Neo prog wouldn't have happened without it imo (although some would say that would not have been a bad thing )

 

Edited by akamaisondufromage - July 02 2012 at 13:55

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Snow Dog wrote: Smurph wrote: Madonna - I mean, it's a crappy music style anyway-    Which style is crappy? She has had so many that you have to be more specific. Unless every style of  music she  has done is crappy. Either way I reject your assertion.

Snow Dog wrote: Smurph wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Smurph wrote: Madonna - I mean, it's a crappy music style anyway-    Which style is crappy? She has had so many that you have to be more specific. Unless every style of  music she  has done is crappy. Either way I reject your assertion.     Simple, catchy danceable music that promotes sexuality in our youth. (I think that covers all her genres) Are the "youth" into Madonna these days?

Edited by Smurph - July 02 2012 at 14:26

akamaisondufromage wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Smurph wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Smurph wrote: Madonna - I mean, it's a crappy music style anyway-    Which style is crappy? She has had so many that you have to be more specific. Unless every style of  music she  has done is crappy. Either way I reject your assertion.     Simple, catchy danceable music that promotes sexuality in our youth. (I think that covers all her genres) Are the "youth" into Madonna these days?   Ninjad (I think our little blue friend is saying Madonna promoted 'sexuality' in his youth. )

Greg has a point; Madonna might not be an influence on today's youth, but she was an influence on their parents (who, whether you like it or not, are almost every child's biggest influence).  She also influenced the sexualization of all pop music after her, which today's youth listen to.  That's not to say that there were no sexually objectionable songs before Madonna, but she was key in popularizing such music.  Pop music has such a profound effect on kids' minds; I was raised in a Christian home and taught ethics and morals and have strongly believed in them my entire life, and I still had individualistic and selfish ideas about romantic love in my early adolescent years, just from listening to 60's music!