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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Spot on with that, it just mucks up the debate, it's about insurance, but insurance is how you get care.
This is why I support single payer health insurance. Derp Derp Derp People Who Say They\'re Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare Derp Derp Derp Derp ![]()
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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It's not perfect, but I'll take it rather than have it be killed outright and have Republicans think that gives them the right to ignore the outrageous cost of health care here. Sooner or later we have to catch up to other civilized countries, better though a misstep than wait another x amount of years for something equally flawed to barely pass.
In case everyone hasn't realized, I'm not really very libertarian. On some things yes, but though the private sector has recently provided us in the US with a lot to burn money on, it's time we even things out socially. Yes, through more taxes. Hopefully minimizing bureaucracy expansion. Still, when the US lags in education, affordability of health care, and health overall, it's really time we shift our focus to actually making the nation better to live in. 2 cents. Take it or leave it. Edited by stonebeard - June 28 2012 at 13:41 |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Slarti and others, you probably have the answer to this probably stupid question. Honestly, I haven't read the entire Obamacare law so my girlfriend was asking me:
If someone doesn't have insurance, one is fined. So people who make little money a year and can't afford, how will they pay? Now another question, very similar: let's have one of the millions of Americans with low, though not Medicaid-low, incomes. They can't afford insurance. They are heavily fined. Are they getting insurance after all by the government, even if they are fined? Because if not, this poor person is being screwed over twice: not only does he have no insurance, and of top of that they're taking up to 700$ from him. Explain how this persn benefits from the new law. Honestly, Imm not being sarcastic, I haven't read the law. Maybe I don't know much? |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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A person who did not have health insurance will face a $95 fine at tax time (or 1% of their income to be increased to 2.5% later). There is a system in place for those who cannot afford health insurance. The poor won't be fined. Not directly, anyway. |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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^Ok. That was puzzling. Thanks.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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While the health care ruling is indeed horrible, we should be happy that they got the Stolen Valor Act right/ See my op-ed on the subject:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/28/united-states-v-alvarez-a-win-for-first-amendment/ Edited by thellama73 - July 01 2012 at 10:29 |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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I was going to read it, but then I got sidetracked. |
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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The article is titled "Two women busted for 'exposing their sexual organs' on golf course". But when I read it, all it said was they lifted their shirts up. ![]() |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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By the way Logan, you ever respond to the people who comment on your article? There's some pretty pissed folks on there.
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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Almost never. I'm not interested in arguing with idiots on the internet unless they are also prog fans. ![]() |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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Damn right. ![]() I tangle with people on Yahoo! from time to time. ![]() |
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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I don't mean anything bad by your article, but I enjoyed the comments more. I love people who think that permission = promotion.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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I was particularly entertained by the unintelligible COWBOYCOP. I wonder whether he is an enforcer of cowboy law or a regular cop who just happens to be a cowboy as well. |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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"I hear tell people were making jokes about me." ![]() |
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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Drudge headline says: Proof of God Particle Found
Ugh I hate science reporting. There's no proof. There's no God particle yet. |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The Doctor ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
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The headline now reads "Evidence of God Particle Found". |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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I'll take full credit for that change.
EDIT: Actually, the article itself always read that headline. I was just insulting the liberties DrugeReport takes with its headlines. The article itself is bad though. The reporter opens by saying that enough evidence exists to say the Boson almost definitely exists. The resarches quoted themselves say, quite correctly, that they're not ready to conclude that fact. Their results are only within 2.9 sigma. That's nothing besides a curiosity at this point. Edited by Equality 7-2521 - July 02 2012 at 11:33 |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The Doctor ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
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Yahoo's headline on the same topic is "Scientists Say Proof of God Particle Found". (We really need a facepalm emoticon).
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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I'm waiting for the headline: "Particle Scientists say Proof of God Found."
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