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Ancient Tree
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Topic: Are The Flower Kings a christian band? Posted: June 30 2012 at 06:50 |
Edited by Ancient Tree - June 30 2012 at 07:31
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rdtprog
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 06:56 |
If it take this influence to inspired them to make this kind of music, i don't have a problem with that, i just have to make abstraction of the content of their lyrics.
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:02 |
You know, I always loved the christian and spiritual elements in their music, even if I would be hard pressed to call them a true christian band. But you DO know the Flower Kings music is rife with endless Christian references and imagery? Do you enjoy their music?
I mean, you criticise those Youtube people as being `freaking christian idiots', so does that therefore make the FK band themselves `idiots’ for putting those elements into their music?!
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:11 |
There's a phrase...I can't seem to recall it...
How does it go now?
Don't feed the... ?
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:12 |
Yep, someone whose views you don't agree with is capable of creating music you like (that's scary- but only for a closed mind)
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:14 |
Ancient Tree wrote:
Freaking christian idiots
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Spoken from someone who doesn't know how to properly drop in a youtube clip. Show a little respect for people who don't believe the same things as you, will ya? I am not longer a Christian, but I don't show those who are disrespect unless they try to force their version on me. News flash, so is Neal Morse/Spock's Beard. Kerry Livgren/Kansas...
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 30 2012 at 07:19
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:27 |
I actually read somewhere that Roine Stolt basically thinks all religions are cool, but it was an interview I read a long time ago so he could've changed his stance since then I guess. But all the same - it's no reason to get mad. After all, Christians listen to music from people who aren't Christian, so why is it such a bad thing for you to listen to music by a Christian? Oh, how awful of him to write about something he cares about....
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Ancient Tree
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:30 |
Epignosis wrote:
There's a phrase...I can't seem to recall it...
How does it go now?
Don't feed the... ?
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also i assume that you are very religious so take it easy,and dont call me a troll
Edited by Ancient Tree - June 30 2012 at 07:30
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:35 |
Don't act like one and we won't.
Now, what is your point here?
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:37 |
hMMM... No problems either way - THey are a wonderful band
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Ancient Tree
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:38 |
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
You know, I always loved the christian and spiritual elements in their music, even if I would be hard pressed to call them a true christian band. But you DO know the Flower Kings music is rife with endless Christian references and imagery? Do you enjoy their music?
I mean, you criticise those Youtube people as being `freaking christian idiots', so does that therefore make the FK band themselves `idiots’ for putting those elements into their music?! |
well i actually didnt listen to flower kings that much only few songs
and about religion : i always have bad experience with religious people,in my townwe have bunch of rednecks from USA whos/their) mission is to spread their stupid believes in my town (cuz our countrie was under communist regime pha right they even dont know what communism is)They rape us (kids,older people,...) with their ideas,in schools,outside,they build benches with religious text on it,...
And im pretty sick of it,this is why i hate really hate hate religion and people who believe in supernatural imagery friends.
And i know that there are also nice people that beleave in god but their numbers arent so big
as Frank Zappa said:
Those Jesus Freaks Well, they're friendly but The sh*t they believe Has got their minds all shut An' they don't even care When the church takes a cut Ain't it bleak when you got so much nothin' -- Frank Zappa, "The Meek Shall Inherit Nothin'"
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:41 |
I feel sorry for you that you should have so much hate in your heart.
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Smurph
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:48 |
I think the message the flower kings probably go with is probably really just love. Might be Christian because they do kinda exhude love. And you know what? Good for them. I'm happy with any person making great music. Women, God, Hell, Fire, Blades, Vampires- Whatever the hell inspires someone- I say GO- Get more of it.
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:54 |
Ancient Tree wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
You know, I always loved the christian and spiritual elements in their music, even if I would be hard pressed to call them a true christian band. But you DO know the Flower Kings music is rife with endless Christian references and imagery? Do you enjoy their music?
I mean, you criticise those Youtube people as being `freaking christian idiots', so does that therefore make the FK band themselves `idiots’ for putting those elements into their music?! |
well i actually didnt listen to flower kings that much only few songs
and about religion : i always have bad experience with religious people,in my townwe have bunch of rednecks from USA whos/their) mission is to spread their stupid believes in my town (cuz our countrie was under communist regime pha right they even dont know what communism is)They rape us (kids,older people,...) with their ideas,in schools,outside,they build benches with religious text on it,...
And im pretty sick of it,this is why i hate really hate hate religion and people who believe in supernatural imagery friends.
And i know that there are also nice people that beleave in god but their numbers arent so big
as Frank Zappa said:
Those Jesus Freaks Well, they're friendly but The sh*t they believe Has got their minds all shut An' they don't even care When the church takes a cut Ain't it bleak when you got so much nothin' -- Frank Zappa, "The Meek Shall Inherit Nothin'"
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It is advisable not to tar everyone with the same brush. I am an athiest and I enjoy christian music without prejudice. I also enjoy non-christian music made by christians and non-christians alike.
Edited by Dean - June 30 2012 at 07:54
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:57 |
Ancient Tree wrote:
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No, I'll never be happy until I shoot someone's eye out with that bb gun. I do have disdain for the asses who profess to be Christians but don't practice it. You can look their god right in the eye. It is unfortunate that they are the most prominent representatives.
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 30 2012 at 08:31
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:24 |
Uncalled for.. losing respect here. Surely we can believe what we want to believe without fear of ridicule from the close minded.
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:55 |
I do hope you are referring to the OP Scott and not any of the posters between his last post and yours.
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sleeper
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:48 |
Ummm, last I heard, wasn't Roine Stolt agnostic?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 10:41 |
Anyway, it's irrelevant, "is the music any good?" is what matters.
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