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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 10:21
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Please, please - I beg of you. Do not turn this into an abortion debate.
I was merely providing context.
Michigan legislators are currently considering one of the most extreme anti-abortion omnibus bills in the country.


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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

It was deleted.
I have reposted it because I do not accept that discussing the workings of the political system and gender politics is out of place in the General Discussion forum.
 
However, as an olive branch to admin, I have rewritten it, making it more reserved than the original. The original thread did contain a fair bit of histrionic ranting and I accept that it could have been seen as inflammatory. I hope my writing style was the issue, not the use of the word vagina or my anti-Republican stance, for either of those would be very worrying indeed.
I don't know the thread this refers to, but...
 
The site has a set of rules for the benefit of all. They were compiled a while back after a lot of discussion in the forum about  what type of site we wanted. You are of course quite entitled to disagree with them or the way they are enforced by the admin team. What we would ask though is that you respect the rule and the efforts made by the admins to enforce them. If everyone makes up their own rules, we simply have anarchy.
 
All I am asking is that people are considerate towards other members when posting. Remember, this is first and foremost a music site.
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Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

I pretty much greet every woman with the word "vagina". Vagina should be absolutely fine, but "p***y" is a word that makes me cringe when used in any way.

In any case, the speaker was most likely talking to adults, and they shouldn't be such babies.
 
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Remember, this is first and foremost a music site.


I refuse to believe that.


"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Remember, this is first and foremost a music site.


I refuse to believe that.


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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Remember, this is first and foremost a music site.


I refuse to believe that.



I second this but a explanation is in place: 

The SITE as in Progarchives.com is not first and foremost a music site, is ONLY a music site. 

Progarchives.com/forum, the forum on this website has stopped being a music first and foremost forum long time ago, probably since the time of its creation. 

Take off the non-musical discussion from this forum and you will slash traffic in half, if not more. 

Anyway, I demand a senator to talk about his penis now. It would only be just. 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Remember, this is first and foremost a music site.


I refuse to believe that.



I second this but a explanation is in place: 

The SITE as in Progarchives.com is not first and foremost a music site, is ONLY a music site. 

Progarchives.com/forum, the forum on this website has stopped being a music first and foremost forum long time ago, probably since the time of its creation. 

Take off the non-musical discussion from this forum and you will slash traffic in half, if not more. 

Anyway, I demand a senator to talk about his penis now. It would only be just. 
 
That would be entertaining
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Don't they generally talk with their penises.
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They think with their penises and talk with their asses. 
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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That aint just politicians

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Look how many of them are named Dick.
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 11:49
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:



Anyway, I demand a senator to talk about his penis now. It would only be just. 

Puhleese, does "Finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my penis, but 'no' means 'no,'" sound like something a male senator would say? Wink

The best one:
Richard Nelson "Dick" Swett (born May 1, 1957) is an American politician from the U.S. state of New Hampshire.




Edited by Slartibartfast - June 20 2012 at 11:55
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:


Progarchives.com/forum, the forum on this website has stopped being a music first and foremost forum long time ago, probably since the time of its creation. 

Take off the non-musical discussion from this forum and you will slash traffic in half, if not more. 
 
I sincerely hope that's not the case. Personally, I would be quite happy to see the traffic drastically reduce in order to move the balance back towards the reason the site was set up. We have lost too many fine contributors with a vast knowledge of prog, who became fed up with the way the forum had been hijacked by those with little interest in prog.
 
Perhaps we need a full discussion about the direction the site should pursue in the future. I know a number of high profile figures on the site are currently considering their options as they become worn down by the way things are. The more such people we lose, the more the site drifts from its intended purpose. That cannot be good for its long term future.
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Personally, I would be quite happy to see the traffic drastically reduce in order to move the balance back towards the reason the site was set up. We have lost too many fine contributors with a vast knowledge of prog, who became fed up with the way the forum had been hijacked by those with little interest in prog.
 

Perhaps we need a full discussion about the direction the site should pursue in the future. I know a number of high profile figures on the site are currently considering their options as they become worn down by the way things are. The more such people we lose, the more the site drifts from its intended purpose. That cannot be good for its long term future.



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Points: 65616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2012 at 03:05
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Perhaps we need a full discussion about the direction the site should pursue in the future. 
Perhaps we do.
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Points: 20414 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2012 at 04:39
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Personally, I would be quite happy to see the traffic drastically reduce in order to move the balance back towards the reason the site was set up. We have lost too many fine contributors with a vast knowledge of prog, who became fed up with the way the forum had been hijacked by those with little interest in prog. 
 
Perhaps we need a full discussion about the direction the site should pursue in the future. I know a number of high profile figures on the site are currently considering their options as they become worn down by the way things are. The more such people we lose, the more the site drifts from its intended purpose. That cannot be good for its long term future.


 
At the risk of upsetting both of you (I'm in no position to do that, right now), I find that most that have left did so because of internal management issues (some even resorting to unsuccessful blackmail), often due to lack of action by the head honcho (not aiming at all at Admins, here)..
The management of the forum was maybe an issue to an Italian lady, but in 90% of the case, it was the database's management that raised irritations and disputes
 
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The free-speach policy of the forum was actually very much an asset for the site,  even if Maani left things self-regulate somehow and sometimes a tad too much... Because it didn't always self-regulate by itself.
 
I have absolutely no problems whatsoever with the palette of subjects that are discussed in the General Discussion Forum... If a subject upsets you... don't open it.... And if you do... do so at your own risk... go cry to mommy, but save the forum of the crybaby thing...
 
This doesn't mean that all subjects should be openly discussed... Obviously there is a fine line - which I'd hate to qualify as "politically correct" (and often is not politically correct, because it resembles to censorship), but it's clearly about the abuse of political correctness issue to make censorship (speaking of the abortion debate issue here, not the thread itself)... The censorship of the use of the word "vagina" is simply inacceptible in a free-speech society... How can an anatomical word be a dirty word??  In the name of prudery???
 
Let's call a cat a pussy then, shall we??LOL
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

This doesn't mean that all subjects should be openly discussed... Obviously there is a fine line - which I'd hate to qualify as "politically correct" (and often is not politically correct, because it resembles to censorship), but it's clearly about the abuse of political correctness issue to make censorship (speaking of the abortion debate issue here, not the thread itself)... The censorship of the use of the word "vagina" is simply inacceptible in a free-speech society... How can an anatomical word be a dirty word??  In the name of prudery???
 
Let's call a cat a pussy then, shall we??LOL
You need to read the background of this "vagina" incident - the objection was not about the use of the word "vagina", the word "vagina" was not the subject of censorship - Lisa Brown was censured for the how she used the word, she was not censored for using it. Unfortunately - poor journalism and even poorer reading-skills have done their usual trick of ensuring this story is coitused up (anatomically correct word) beyond recognition. That is the real sad indictment on the state of the world today.
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