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Dayvenkirq 
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 Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:45 |
 geneyesontle wrote:
Every song of every Beatles record is well known. |
No s$%t. I never heard or read anyone talk about "I Need You" or "You Won't See Me" or "The Word" ... unless you meant that statement as an exaggeration.
ExittheLemming wrote:
BTW They both had crap drummers |
But that's a good thing, right?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - June 16 2012 at 02:48
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:47 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Ivan did a fine job disecting your list. Give me any obscure album over any beatles album and I will be happy...I prefer not to follow the masses. |
So why PF, Rush or Iron Maiden instead of UZ, Art Zoyd or KD? Sorry, couldn't resist. 
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:53 |
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The Beatles. |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:58 |
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
[The Beatles] used French chanson in their music, mixed sitar with R&B and experimentalism ... they practically invented pop-prog, pulled off backwards guitar, developed a technique of changing timbre by changing speed on tape (although that was G. Martin's fault), ... lots of technical, [stylistic,] and songwriting stuff. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 09:18 |
In this cases the masses follow us 
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 09:24 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
[The Beatles] used French chanson in their music, mixed sitar with R&B and experimentalism ... they practically invented pop-prog, pulled off backwards guitar, developed a technique of changing timbre by changing speed on tape (although that was G. Martin's fault), ... lots of technical, [stylistic,] and songwriting stuff. |
Tell me they invented POP and I'll follow you, they only became close to Prog in Abbey Road, they only joined Psyche after this genre was already pretty popular.
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 12:40 |
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I believe Floyd were much better songwriters, even if The Beatles more innovative.
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geneyesontle
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 16:21 |
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Pink Floyd didn't
The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times.
Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time
The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwide
Pink Floyd had sold 250 million albums worldwide
Every song of every Beatles record is well known
Pink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother
The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrer
Pink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer
And the list goes on and on... |
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I have a hammer and some nails I can give you, you can seal yourself in your own coffin. I probably can count on one hand how many people on this site care about Rolling Stone or Billbord...........
Those are bold comments in red.......ouch!
Ivan did a fine job disecting your list. Give me any obscure album over any beatles album and I will be happy...I prefer not to follow the masses. |
Yeah but I don't care about Bilboard or Rolling Stone. And I say that the Beatles are better songwriters only because they were more magic. But still Pink Floyd is very magic. I love both artists. But in terms of musicianship, Pink Floyd wins: Guitar players: George Harisson and John Lennon vs David Gilmour. David Gilmour because he plays the good notes at the good time. Keyboard players: John Lennon and Paul McCartney vs Richard Wright. Righard Wright wins Rythym sections: Beatles vs Pink Floyd. I don't care. They are both not gifted
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
- Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle
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Earthmover
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 19:16 |
Have Beatles ever composed a song as good as Shine on? Or Echoes? Or Dogs? Have they ever thought of concepts such as Dark Side? Or the Wall?
My vote would go to the obvious.
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geneyesontle
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 19:34 |
mister nobody wrote:
Have Beatles ever composed a song as good as Shine on? Or Echoes? Or Dogs? Have they ever thought of concepts such as Dark Side? Or the Wall?
My vote would go to the obvious. |
Well no but the rule is the same. Without The Beatles, Nick Mason and Roger Waters would be architects, Richard Wright would be a pianist who would play in bars, Syd Barrett would be a painter and David Gilmour would be a poor guitarist.
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
- Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 21:15 |
^ I thought Rick would be an architect ... or designing toilet seats, as he said .
Miss you, man. R. I. P.
And besides, give the Fab boys a break; they've done enough to be beyond legendary. Indeed, without them, where would the Floyd really be?
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 22:14 |
mister nobody wrote:
Have Beatles ever composed a song as good as Shine on? Or Echoes? Or Dogs? Have they ever thought of concepts such as Dark Side? Or the Wall?
My vote would go to the obvious. |
And Pink Floyd would fall flat on their face if they had to write a funny, whimsical album like Sgt Peppers. If you are going to address this question by pointing out what the Beatles did not do that Floyd did, there's plenty more that Floyd could not do that the Beatles could. In terms of versatility, there's simply no comparison at all.
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Earthmover
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 06:57 |
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The Beatles were certainly more influential band, if not the most influential band of the 20th century. But that doesn't mean they're better musically than Floyd. The question is who's better, not who's more influential, right? Sometimes student is better than his master, no?
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 07:13 |
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These discussions are silly:
A likes X more than Y
B likes Y more than X
A therefore does not like B
B therefore does not like A
Calculate who is right to two decimal places.
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 08:06 |
mister nobody wrote:
The Beatles were certainly more influential band, if not the most influential band of the 20th century. But that doesn't mean they're better musically than Floyd. The question is who's better, not who's more influential, right? Sometimes student is better than his master, no? |
Didn't say he cannot be. But is it a fact, as you seem to be stating, that one band is better than the other? If so, based on what evidence do you propose to prove it?
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 09:24 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
These discussions are silly:
A likes X more than Y
B likes Y more than X
A therefore does not like B
B therefore does not like A
Calculate who is right to two decimal places.
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Might wanna be clearer on this one. I don't see any mutual dislikes so far.
mister nobody wrote:
The Beatles were certainly more influential band, if not the most influential band of the 20th century. But that doesn't mean they're better musically than Floyd. The question is who's better, not who's more influential, right? Sometimes student is better than his master, no? |
That's not clear either. The only hint you get is "Discuss" ... which does not sound like a question.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - June 17 2012 at 09:27
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 10:02 |
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I think you have that one backwards.
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Earthmover
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 10:11 |
rogerthat wrote:
mister nobody wrote:
The Beatles were certainly more influential band, if not the most influential band of the 20th century. But that doesn't mean they're better musically than Floyd. The question is who's better, not who's more influential, right? Sometimes student is better than his master, no? |
Didn't say he cannot be. But is it a fact, as you seem to be stating, that one band is better than the other? If so, based on what evidence do you propose to prove it?
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I do not state that Pink Floyd is objectively better band than Beatles (although it seems like I am). I merely state that influence does not equal quality. Their influence does not mean they are musically better. We have to look into other things (mainly compositions) to really compare these two bands. Although, in the end, it all comes down to personal preference, and my is that Pink Floyd is the better of these two. I was little too fast to say some things, I admit, but my vote would still stand (if I had right to vote )
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 11:26 |
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I think Pink Floyd is objectively better than The Beatles according to my own objective evaluation.
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Posted: June 17 2012 at 11:46 |
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Well thats settled it then.
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