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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 13:24
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 

Cool

Dream Theater is awful. 
/troll

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Oh go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you.


I just ignore those ignorant, off-topic, troll comments
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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 13:30
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 

Cool

Dream Theater is awful. 
/troll

high fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive

Oh go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you.


I just ignore those ignorant, off-topic, troll comments


This whole thread is ignorant man. LOL
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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 13:32
Well there was some meaningful discussion besides "Dream Theater is awful.  /thread" Wink
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I wish some people would think these ideas through before dumping them on us like they've had some road to Damascus epiphany that they really need to share.
 
If creating a Pop Star was easy we'd all be doing it - to hell with artistic integrity, bring on the champagne and caviar, limos and easy action - dammit I want a big house in the country and a fleet of Italian supercars to drive to Domino's for a take away pizza - if writing a 4-minute, 4-chord wonder is that easy then let's do it now - come on guys, we've got the talent and I'm sure we can find some leggy bimbo to front the band - our 90% split between us would still be a tidy sum of cash.
 
 
damn, this is one catchy tune:
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 14:11
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I wish some people would think these ideas through before dumping them on us like they've had some road to Damascus epiphany that they really need to share.
 
If creating a Pop Star was easy we'd all be doing it - to hell with artistic integrity, bring on the champagne and caviar, limos and easy action - dammit I want a big house in the country and a fleet of Italian supercars to drive to Domino's for a take away pizza - if writing a 4-minute, 4-chord wonder is that easy then let's do it now - come on guys, we've got the talent and I'm sure we can find some leggy bimbo to front the band - our 90% split between us would still be a tidy sum of cash.

and as usual Dean wins the discussion. 

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Well there was some meaningful discussion besides "Dream Theater is awful.  /thread" Wink

well yeah but it was all what is pop and what pop is bad and is all pop bad and stuff like thatz.
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How to Create a Pop Star

plasticine can help


http://www.photo-dictionary.com/photofiles/list/5129/6747plasticine.jpg
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Just curious, who amongst our long time prog fans hasn't gone through a period where you looked down on pop after becoming a prog fan?
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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hm yeah but that passed after I was 14 :D
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Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

How to Create a Pop Star

plasticine can help


http://www.photo-dictionary.com/photofiles/list/5129/6747plasticine.jpg




LOL

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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 14:25
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Just curious, who amongst our long time prog fans hasn't gone through a period where you looked down on pop after becoming a prog fan?


Ive gone on to appreciate pop more after becoming a prog fan when I was 17. I like some pop when I was 10-12 years old, but that's cause I was so young and not exposed to much music (besides classical).
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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 14:27
The only pop song that's come out in the last 5 years that I truly liked, was C. Lo Green's "f**k You", and it's probably because it's so derivative of 70s R&B/funk (and the lyrics).
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Just curious, who amongst our long time prog fans hasn't gone through a period where you looked down on pop after becoming a prog fan?
Not me - I bought Electric Warrior and Meddle in the same year - I've always like Pop and Prog.
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Not me.  I've always like some pop and some prog.  I always thought there was good pop and good prog.  Weird I know!
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Technically, most 70s prog is pop music pushed to it's limits, with added eclecticism. This could be why some people don't like modern prog, and some have said it lacks that 'hook'.
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(see Kate Bush for example)
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 14:36
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Technically, most 70s prog is pop music pushed to it's limits, with added eclecticism. This could be why some people don't like modern prog, and some have said it lacks that 'hook'.
Technically everything under the sun is pop that is not Classical or Jazz or serioius experimental composers


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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

If creating a Pop Star was easy we'd all be doing it - to hell with artistic integrity, bring on the champagne and caviar, limos and easy action - dammit I want a big house in the country and a fleet of Italian supercars to drive to Domino's for a take away pizza - if writing a 4-minute, 4-chord wonder is that easy then let's do it now - come on guys, we've got the talent and I'm sure we can find some leggy bimbo to front the band - our 90% split between us would still be a tidy sum of cash.

Oh, but it is that easy.  The only ingredient you're missing is money.  You either need to have a whole lot of it, or know someone who does and is willing to invest it in you.  Pop stars ARE created these days from talentless bums by people who have a tidy sum of cash.  Ashley Simpson?  Read this article from someone IN the business:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-mellencamp/on-my-mind-the-state-of-t_b_177836.html


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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 14:40
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Technically, most 70s prog is pop music pushed to it's limits, with added eclecticism. This could be why some people don't like modern prog, and some have said it lacks that 'hook'.
Technically everything under the sun is pop that is not Classical or Jazz or serioius experimental composers


Well, was classical (Romantic, Classical, etc) not the pop music of it's day?

And Jazz has been pop music at least 2-3 times in it's history. Swing, 70s fusion, and smooth jazz.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 14:41
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Technically, most 70s prog is pop music pushed to it's limits, with added eclecticism. This could be why some people don't like modern prog, and some have said it lacks that 'hook'.
Technically everything under the sun is pop that is not Classical or Jazz or serioius experimental composers


Well, was classical (Romantic, Classical, etc) not the pop music of it's day?


No, not really. Plus the word pop had  not been created.
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Anybody ever heard about this story:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/virtual-japanese-pop-star-sells-concerts-makes-more-204736890.html
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