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Pinkhead
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Posted: May 15 2012 at 22:12 |
Easy for me Led Zeppelin.
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cstack3
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Posted: May 15 2012 at 23:26 |
Led Zep for me also. Funny, my favorite single work by Black Sabbath remains the remarkable "Heaven and Hell!"
I play lots of BS and Led Zep on guitar & bass, and Led Zep shows more instrumental brilliance. However, I don't know what they put into Iommi's tea during the "Heaven & Hell" sessions, but that is some brilliant guitar work!! Coupled with RJD vocals, you have magic.
Not to slight the rest of the Sabbath catalog, I love every bit of it!
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Kashmir75
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 04:01 |
Both are among my favourite bands. I can't choose.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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MonsterMagnet
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 05:36 |
Led Zeppelin by a mile! Their music is much deeper and they are absolutely classy and mythic! I like Black Sabbath and I rescpect them but they aren't in the same league.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 05:45 |
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PyramidMeetsTheEye
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:32 |
Led Zeppelin,awesome band much better than black sabbath
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:32 |
sagichim wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
... . What does Sabbath have? 'Iron Man'? 'Paranoid'? My ears say they are dead to me. Besides, I find Jimmy's riffs more melodic, more ... alive than Tony's.
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Oh come on man! I guess you are not familiar with Sabbath if you mentioned these songs.
And tonny's riffing are not alive? Oh Oh! |
Oh, I am familiar with those songs, and no matter how many times I hear them on the radio at my other job (those songs haven't got to the point of annoyance yet), they are just ... blah! I don't like Ozzy's voice, ... never liked it, and Tony does not sound as proficient as Jimmy. Of course one need not be really proficient; it's just that Tony ... I just think he can do better.
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rogerthat
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:20 |
Iron Man, Paranoid is hardly where it's at. I have no idea why these songs get mentioned so often...maybe they got a lot of airplay on the radio. Barring Warpigs and the song Black Sabbath, Master of Reality is where Sabbath start getting interesting at all, for me.
Edited by rogerthat - May 16 2012 at 10:21
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 12:59 |
rogerthat wrote:
Iron Man, Paranoid is hardly where it's at. I have no idea why these songs get mentioned so often...maybe they got a lot of airplay on the radio. Barring Warpigs and the song Black Sabbath, Master of Reality is where Sabbath start getting interesting at all, for me.
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Roger that.
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Sagichim
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 14:32 |
Black Sabbath got more interesting as they went along, pretty much everything is classic but from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath they were much interesting. Songs like Iron Man and Paranoid are just one side of the band, like you can't define LZ with Comunication Breakdown and Black Dog it's just one side of them.
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geneyesontle
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 19:14 |
Whole Lotta Love to Led Zeppelin. Sabbath isn't as good
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
- Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle
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The Cassini Projekt
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Posted: May 25 2012 at 17:52 |
Led Zep by a country mile. I like that Sabbath established a new genre which appeals to me quite a lot, (doom metal) but for the most part their songs are boring and overly pentatonic based, there is just something lacking in the music. Led Zeppelin just wrote better songs ultimately, I'm sure Sabbath were just as experimental in their own way but Led Zeppelin really mixed a lot of different styles and came out with some amazing songs as a result.
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: May 26 2012 at 11:10 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
The Zeps have a lot in their arsenal: 'Dazed and Confused', 'Whole Lotta Love', 'The Immigrant Song', the stairs, my personal favorite - the album "Houses of the Holy", 'In My Time of Dying', 'Ten Years Gone', ... . What does Sabbath have? 'Iron Man'? 'Paranoid'? My ears say they are dead to me. Besides, I find Jimmy's riffs more melodic, more ... alive than Tony's.
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What does Sabbath have? Black Sabbath The Wizard Behind The Wall Of Sleep (Olympia 1970 version) N.I.B. Sleeping Village All of Paranoid and Master Of RealityWheels Of Confusion Tomorrow's Dream Supernaut Snowblind Cornucopia Laguna Sunrise Under The Sun Sabbath Bloody Sabbath A National Acrobat Fluff Sabbra Cadarbra Looking For Today Spiral Architect Hole In The Sky Symptom Of The Universe Megalomania Thrill Of It All Supertzar
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 26 2012 at 11:43 |
^ And does any of it have organ or piano or complex and melodic riffs executed on a guitar with a rich tone?
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rogerthat
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Posted: May 26 2012 at 12:01 |
Come on, Sabracadabra doesn't have piano? I am guessing you still haven't properly heard Sabbath Bloody Sabbath or Sabotage albums.
As for riffs, LZ's riffs may be complex but they are not very crushing, to my ears anyway. I like riffs that are really crushing, infectious and immediately arouse the ace air-guitarist in me into action. If I want complex chords, I will listen to good keyboard music or stuff where they use guitar as an ensemble instrument, e.g. KC, Genesis.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 26 2012 at 12:09 |
rogerthat wrote:
Come on, Sabracadabra doesn't have piano? I am guessing you still haven't properly heard Sabbath Bloody Sabbath or Sabotage albums.
As for riffs, LZ's riffs may be complex but they are not very crushing, to my ears anyway. I like riffs that are really crushing, infectious and immediately arouse the ace air-guitarist in me into action. If I want complex chords, I will listen to good keyboard music or stuff where they use guitar as an ensemble instrument, e.g. KC, Genesis.
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I never said that.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 26 2012 at 12:10
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rogerthat
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Posted: May 26 2012 at 21:00 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
Come on, Sabracadabra doesn't have piano? I am guessing you still haven't properly heard Sabbath Bloody Sabbath or Sabotage albums.
As for riffs, LZ's riffs may be complex but they are not very crushing, to my ears anyway. I like riffs that are really crushing, infectious and immediately arouse the ace air-guitarist in me into action. If I want complex chords, I will listen to good keyboard music or stuff where they use guitar as an ensemble instrument, e.g. KC, Genesis.
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I never said that.
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It was a rhetorical question, as if to highlight what Sabbath doesn't have that LZ has in plenty "Do any of those songs have organ or piano or...."?
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ole-the-first
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Posted: May 27 2012 at 12:58 |
I've never liked first two LZ albums (exept for the few songs like 'Good Times, Bad Times', etc), and Sabbath's first two albums are masterpieces.
On the other hand, LZ IV and Houses of the Holy are blowing away Vol. 4 and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (and everything else Sabbath ever did). LZ III and Master of Reality are equally good for me.
Sabotage vs Physical Graffiti? Sabotage for me.
On the other hand, Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die are nothing comparing with Presence and In Through the Outdoor.
And after 70's Black Sabbath did at least one more masterpiece, Heaven and Hell, and Dio is a hell of a singer, especially in comparison with Plant.
In general, LZ are much more professional band, but sometimes the music of BS I can understand better.
Thus, I really can't choose. So I vote for the third variant, I love them equally.
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This night wounds time.
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tamijo
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Posted: May 27 2012 at 13:07 |
Zepplin.
The best ROCK band ever !
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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nima1024
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Posted: May 30 2012 at 14:35 |
Of course Led Zeppelin. :)
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