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sleeper 
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 Posted: May 18 2012 at 13:02 |
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Lotta season to go but certainly off to a Schumacher type start.
I like Kanaan and Franchitti but cmon, he's an aussie named f**king Will Power how can you not like that guy?
Also I can't believe I forgot next weekend is the epic race weekend.
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Watch Newgarden, he's been setting some good times around Indy in testing this week, he could spring a surprise like Hildebrand and Wheldon did last year.
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Posted: May 18 2012 at 13:11 |
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^BAR was an awful car. Not Villeneuve's best days and an ingnominious last few years to his F1 career. |
It was to start with but by the time it came good in 2003 he was past it and Button blew him away pretty easily in the end.
James, that was a BMW Sauber, not a BAR. And Viellneuve always did poorly at his home race, unlike his dad who was king at the track.
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I was gunna say, I remember 2004 when Button had a pretty good year. Sato did pretty decently as well. 05 started off pretty abysmally though, and of course BAR became Honda where Button got his first win, and Honda became Brawn where Button got his first title. I know different teams technically but still interesting Maybe not idk
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Posted: May 18 2012 at 13:27 |
To those interested in MotoGP, Honda HRC works rider and reigning world champion aussie Casey Stoner announced yesterday that he will be retiring at the end of 2012 season.
Casey was never particularly charismatic but he is a hell of a rider so the sport and its fans will miss him.
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Posted: May 18 2012 at 17:13 |
IIRC, he was in the hunt the last two years as well but couldnt complete it came down to the oval racing. Here's hoping he can hang in there this year. And yeah Hes still there alright but I guess the team he's on now isnt a big/good one. He is teammates with Barrichello I believe so they need to use more Brazillian power.
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Posted: May 18 2012 at 17:16 |
sleeper wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Lotta season to go but certainly off to a Schumacher type start.
I like Kanaan and Franchitti but cmon, he's an aussie named f**king Will Power how can you not like that guy?
Also I can't believe I forgot next weekend is the epic race weekend.
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Watch Newgarden, he's been setting some good times around Indy in testing this week, he could spring a surprise like Hildebrand and Wheldon did last year.
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Aside from Power and Casty I'll probably be rooting secretly for Hildebrand due to last years mishap. Of course, I have to root for Barrichello as well.
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 18 2012 at 17:19 |
Yeah he came in 2nd those times. Oh dear...its funny you'd think you should be able to ovals if you can do roads. I know they're different but cmon, is it that hard? It's the same car too, not like JPM who had to switch from F1 to stock cars Actually Kanaan has done alright. Just not winning titles  It would be cool to see Rubens do well.
Edited by JJLehto - May 18 2012 at 17:21
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sleeper
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Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:11 |
JJLehto wrote:
Yeah he came in 2nd those times. Oh dear...its funny you'd think you should be able to ovals if you can do roads.
I know they're different but cmon, is it that hard?
It's the same car too, not like JPM who had to switch from F1 to stock cars
Actually Kanaan has done alright. Just not winning titles
It would be cool to see Rubens do well.
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Power's actually pretty good on the ovals these days (he won at Texas last year) but Penske made a few too many mistakes on pit road and in strategy on the ovals at the end of last year to beat Dario.
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Posted: May 19 2012 at 12:45 |
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Well I'm just going off MWH...I've been terrible with Indy recently.
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Posted: May 19 2012 at 22:56 |
Hey, thats still blowing it on ovals.  At least, in the larger scheme he def seems better on the road courses. I remember one year he crashed driving off of pit road. I didnt see the race just the highlights, so I could have misinterpretted what happened. I assume the car broke or tire was put on wrong.
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 05:46 |
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^I see what you mean, on the ovals he's good, on the road courses he's the best there is.
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 12:08 |
Well, up next is Indy....that'd be a helluva time to improve on an oval  And Monaco. The grand racing day. I don't care about the Coke 600 anymore, but there's that too
Edited by JJLehto - May 20 2012 at 13:09
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Posted: May 23 2012 at 03:23 |
So anyone willing to bet on Rubens winning the Indy 500?
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Posted: May 23 2012 at 05:13 |
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^Well, he's starting in the top 10 and stranger things have happened (see last years last lap).
I feel sorry for ex-GP driver Jean Alesi making his debut, because he's Lotus contracted he has to use one of their engines which means he'll be swapping last place with Simona de Silvestro all day because neither of them have anywhere near the power to keep up with the Honda's and Chevy's.
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Posted: May 23 2012 at 13:57 |
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Yes...those Lotus powered cars are quite off the pace. Seems a little dangerous to me.
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Posted: May 23 2012 at 13:59 |
JJLehto wrote:
So anyone willing to bet on Rubens winning the Indy 500?
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I'll bet with your money.
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Posted: May 23 2012 at 14:26 |
sleeper wrote:
^Well, he's starting in the top 10 and stranger things have happened (see last years last lap).
I feel sorry for ex-GP driver Jean Alesi making his debut, because he's Lotus contracted he has to use one of their engines which means he'll be swapping last place with Simona de Silvestro all day because neither of them have anywhere near the power to keep up with the Honda's and Chevy's.
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He hasn't done any ovals yet, but it is a good start. And like I said, when you've raced in Monaco and Spa...how bad can an oval be? Ya know Phil, it's brilliant...the odds for Rubens are probably a bit of a stretch, could end up making bank if he wins! Holy crap, Jean Alesi...I only know him from the old "F1 decade" show they used to have, they showed the 93, 94, 95 seasons.
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Posted: May 24 2012 at 05:54 |
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Yes...those Lotus powered cars are quite off the pace. Seems a little dangerous to me. |
Yeah, they're in danger of falling below the 105% rule which means they could get black flagged. At least Alesi and De Silvestro are far better drivers than Milka Duno, so you dont have to worry about them acting stupid on track as well.
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Posted: May 24 2012 at 05:55 |
JJLehto wrote:
sleeper wrote:
^Well, he's starting in the top 10 and stranger things have happened (see last years last lap).
I feel sorry for ex-GP driver Jean Alesi making his debut, because he's Lotus contracted he has to use one of their engines which means he'll be swapping last place with Simona de Silvestro all day because neither of them have anywhere near the power to keep up with the Honda's and Chevy's.
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He hasn't done any ovals yet, but it is a good start.
And like I said, when you've raced in Monaco and Spa...how bad can an oval be?
Ya know Phil, it's brilliant...the odds for Rubens are probably a bit of a stretch, could end up making bank if he wins!
Holy crap, Jean Alesi...I only know him from the old "F1 decade" show they used to have, they showed the 93, 94, 95 seasons.
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Well, I remember Mansell won his first ever CART race on an oval (Phoenix if memory serves), though he was driving for Newman Haas at their best. Still, KV are probably the third biggest team in Indy right now.
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Posted: May 24 2012 at 05:57 |
This being Monaco, practice is on a Thursday, so FP1 times: Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m16.265s 22
2. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m16.630s + 0.365 17
3. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m16.711s + 0.446 19
4. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m16.747s + 0.482 12
5. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m16.760s + 0.495 20
6. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m16.843s + 0.578 19
7. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m17.038s + 0.773 21
8. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m17.190s + 0.925 13
9. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m17.222s + 0.957 14
10. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m17.261s + 0.996 18
11. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m17.413s + 1.148 14
12. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m17.631s + 1.366 18
13. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m18.106s + 1.841 14
14. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m18.209s + 1.944 25
15. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m18.252s + 1.987 28
16. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m18.302s + 2.037 16
17. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m18.617s + 2.352 20
18. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m19.03$s + 2.774 20
19. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m19.341s + 3.076 16
20. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m20.838s + 4.573 26
21. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m20.895s + 4.630 18
22. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m21.638s + 5.373 9
23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m22.423s + 6.158 15
24. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1
Raikkonen didn't like his Monaco specific steering after an instilation lap so wipped out his practice. The times do look a bit slow, though, I expect we'll see them into the 14's this afternoon.
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