Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

Hell yea, The Sum of No Evil is straight up the best thing for 2000s TFK, just behind UtF.

I haven't gotten around to re-listening to A&E yet. If not tonight, maybe tomorrow.

Nov wrote: darkshade wrote: Hell yea, The Sum of No Evil is straight up the best thing for 2000s TFK, just behind UtF. The rest of us beg to differ  Roland113 wrote: Infandous Roland Barney Darkshade Nov Roj Biff Average The Flower King 2.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 2.0 2.0 0.0 1.0 Back in the World 2.0 1.0 2.0 1.0 2.0 3.0 1.0 1.7 Retropolis 4.0 3.0 2.0 1.0 2.0 2.0 2.0 2.3 Stardust We Are 2.0 4.0 4.0 3.0 3.0 4.0 4.0 3.4 Flower Power 3.0 2.0 4.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 5.0 3.7 Space Revolver 2.0 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.0 3.7 The Rainmaker 2.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 Unfold the Future 3.0 5.0 2.0 5.0 3.0 1.0 2.0 3.0 Adam and Eve 1.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 2.0 2.0 1.0 Paradox Hotel 2.0 5.0 4.0 2.0 3.0 2.0 5.0 3.3 Sum of No Evil 2.0 0.0 2.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.3 And thus when someone asks "What's the Best Flower Kings release" we have now scientifically determined that Space Revolver and Flower Power are their best.  Go forth armed with knowledge.

What's so wrong with Sum of No Evil?  I thought Sum of No Reason was one of the best compositions they've ever done.  7 opinions does not the whole represent...

that poll is great for sum of all opinions. Median score would prob be Best but yeah the sample is small. Anyway flower power and stardust are claasicsand great for newboes who are ready into symph prog. My post above was concerning how refreshing sum was after living with Adam and eve for awhile. Both are great and are different. For me paradox and unfold are good but long and experimental. Sometimes I'm in the mood for that. Other times want straight up concise prog album. That's where sum comes in. Adam and eve is it's own beast and exactly the album the boys needed to make at that time. Given that context it is awesome and although I may not dig some of the tunes (vamp) I still respect and appreciate it. I have a feeling that vamp view will someday be o e of my favs. That's why I love tfk. Each album continues to get under my skIn over the years. Here's to a decade with banks of Eden!

darkshade wrote: Hell yea, The Sum of No Evil is straight up the best thing for 2000s TFK, just behind UtF. I haven't gotten around to re-listening to A&E yet. If not tonight, maybe tomorrow.

darkshade wrote: I don't know. I had Love Is The Only Answer stuck in my head for days last month. And I love One More Time and The Sum of No Reason a lot. I guess I'm the token fan of that album, like some are fans of other albums here.

Edited by zumacraig - May 13 2012 at 11:58

darkshade wrote: I don't know. I had Love Is The Only Answer stuck in my head for days last month. And I love One More Time and The Sum of No Reason a lot. I guess I'm the token fan of that album, like some are fans of other albums here.

I think the problem with Sum is that it's what the FK's thought their fans wanted to hear.  Pure symphonic bombast with no "filler".  I think they should have ignored what they though the fans wanted and just done whatever appealed to them.

A friend once told me he thought Sum sounded like a fusing of The Rainmaker and Unfold.  I always felt that was a fair assessment.  I enjoy the album, but it always falls short of blowing me away.  It's one of those that excited me on first listen, but steadily became less interesting with each play (though it's still a very good album, don't get me wrong).

I actually think that Sum proves that Flower Kings albums are just not the same without the so-called "filler".  Still, I like it much more than A&E, CD two of Flower Power, and even Rainmaker.  I can't rate it higher than any others though, except possibly Roine's TFK album (and I'm not even sure about that).

Edited by Nov - May 14 2012 at 17:25

darkshade wrote: ^ Thanks for the link, but I'm not trying to hear anything until the album comes out. I already heard some snippets a few weeks back, and it was more than enough to know that Banks of Eden is probably going to blow the last few TFK albums out of the water.

Ohh, a couple weeks, I should get around to pre-ordering it

Yeah, I'm actually going to wait until Greg Walker gets copies.  He's planning on getting all editions, so I don't think it will be an issue.  In the past I never pre-ordered Flower Kings albums because they were usually cheaper after they had been released (Unfold was the exception, as I was able to order the special edition for $14! back then......those days are gone I'm afraid).  In any case, Amazon.com shows the special edition for $44.......I'm sorry, there is no way I'm paying $44 for ANY CD, even a double Flower Kings.  The single CD is available for $14.89, but I must have the special edition.  As you say Roj, it's very unclear what you are getting as all editions on Amazon list 1 CD.

Anyway, I'm not worried, as I've always been able to get them after release for a decent price.