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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2012 at 23:28
Asperger's people seem to miss out on the Dunning-Kruger effect which is not the good thing it might sound like because that makes life a lot easier to enjoy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2012 at 23:34
I wasted time taking it but then I didn't save the result, but it was like 45. Maybe because I put the middle option for almost all of them because IDK. While I can look back on parts of my life and say wow that was really aspie, I doubt I could stand to work retail for 3 years if I were really significantly on the spectrum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 00:01
Your Aspie score: 119 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 93 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 00:03

Henry: Interesting that you say that. I was phenomenally successful during my brief time as a door to door salesman and but hated doing it and quit despite outperforming people who were much more experienced.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 05:50
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Asperger's people seem to miss out on the Dunning-Kruger effect which is not the good thing it might sound like because that makes life a lot easier to enjoy.
 
This is very likely indeed. I think the Dunning-Kruger effect is mostly applicable to managers Stern Smile.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:44
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Gamemako Gamemako wrote:


(Note: I'm an engineer, which makes this result pretty odd.)


Not really. Engineers are twice as likely as the general population to have autistic children, but as far as I know the majority of engineers remain non-autistic.
*shrug* engineer is too general a term to be a specific type of person as engineers are available in all shapes and sizes. Personality traits that are beneficial in one field/trade/discipline that would be a hinderance in another, like any other profession, engineers tend to gravitate to the particular type of engineering that suits their personality
 
I seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits, which doesn't surprise me, and  I doubt would surprise anyone else, but I'm certainly not reading anything into it. I'll not post my scores here because some are treating this as a highscore table and I'm not interested in playing.


Autistic itself describes something too general for its own good. Too many people have no idea what it means.

I considered not making the thread for that reason, but I thought people could handle it appropriately.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 08:31
This poll is not very good IMO, because half of the items are "do you tend to know what to do in social situations?"
 
So a big part of the exam seems to be about social skills or social confidence. Both of which can be very learned skills. I was extremely social awkward and anxious and only through working jobs where I was constantly in contact with new people over and over (the first one being fast food) that I started to lose the anxiety, figure out that small talk does indeed have a function, and more quickly pick up on social cues.
 
Despite being naturally poor at these skills, by training I'm now probably better at reading people than most.
 
Asperger's is bigger than just social skills.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:09
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

This poll is not very good IMO, because half of the items are "do you tend to know what to do in social situations?"


Actually, the defining characteristics of Asperger syndrome are lack of social awareness, language difficulties, tendency toward repetitive and specified interests (e.g. obsession with routines), and clumsiness. The quiz covers all of them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:21
He's not deny that. He's saying that the test questions do not discover if someone has trouble intrinsically with socially cues, but has been adept enough at learning them to be comfortable.

For example, some with Asperger's can act perfectly normally in a social setting in a particular building but then be complete destabilized by the same situation in a different building. It's because the social ques have been learned like those of a game. In particular, some of my answers to social situations were 1s instead of 2s because I to some degree have just learned from years of observation how people are supposed to act in certain scenarios.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:40
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

He's not deny that. He's saying that the test questions do not discover if someone has trouble intrinsically with socially cues, but has been adept enough at learning them to be comfortable.


An Aspie will have considerable difficulty learning that kind of behavior because its use requires interpretation of the reactions of others. He may know what to do in a given situation, but he will have considerable trouble identifying when the situation arises.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:55
Originally posted by Gamemako Gamemako wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

He's not deny that. He's saying that the test questions do not discover if someone has trouble intrinsically with socially cues, but has been adept enough at learning them to be comfortable.


An Aspie will have considerable difficulty learning that kind of behavior because its use requires interpretation of the reactions of others. He may know what to do in a given situation, but he will have considerable trouble identifying when the situation arises.


Some will - some won't. You're assuming an unrealistic level of homogeneity. It's a spectrum, not a cell.

In a lot of situations the neurotypical sees the Aspie and thinks, wow he's so awkward and uncomfortable while the Aspie can feel himself fitting in quite well. Even if the person judges the incorrect times to use their stock responses, they can remain unaware of this error and feel as though they're acting appropriately in the situation.

The questions have serious flaws which is why this is a fun exercise rather than anything resembling diagnosis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 15:13

And there are people who are just socially inept and not Autistic spectrum.

In general, Autism is assumed to be inate. Compensatory skills can be learned but it's like the circuits for integrating that data are just more sparse. Akin to dyslexia.

Myself, I had pretty severe social anxiety and didn't learn certain skills on time as a result. Some of that is actually being OVERLY empathetic but having no skills to deal with the feelings. I still feel a compulsion to leave the room if a character on TV is about to get majorly embarrassed in a social siutation. Once I got into a controlled situation requiring repeated social encounters I caught up and now the empathy is usually an advantage.

My point was that this quiz would not have made that distinction at all. Prior to my "retraining" I would have scored very highly on this test. Now I was pretty much in the middle.
 
And social anxiety is VERY common - this distinction is not a red herring.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 17:11
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I really deeply hope I'm always aware whether I'm screwing up or not. I always know when I'm screwing up, I think. Yesterday I hung out with a girl and thought I was sometimes eccentric (which I sometimes pointed out using that word) but overall I was smooth, and empathetic. I make a lot of mistakes, everyday and all the time, so I tend to give myself credit if the main drift of my actions was correct. I usually notice how tough it is though, I don't think it is more than I think it is. I'm a pretty merciless self-critic.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2012 at 17:50
Your Aspie score: 98 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 115 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2012 at 14:17
Your Aspie score: 158 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 40 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

Interesting thread.  The diagnosis of Asperger's may well become defunct as the new American diagnostic manual DSM-V, used in many countries, doesn't list it as a separate disorder and it will now be diagnosed under the general heading of ASD (autism spectrum disorder).  And yes Negoba, Asperger's is more than just lack of social skills.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2012 at 16:55
We listen to Progressive rock and other assortments of music. We also have interesting views on certain things that the general public finds unpopular. So of course, we're COOL.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2012 at 03:09
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

We listen to Progressive rock and other assortments of music. We also have interesting views on certain things that the general public finds unpopular. So of course, we're COOL.


Like!! Not to mention the ability to focus and attention to detail.  Anyway, following the herd is way overrated. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2012 at 04:37
Your Aspie score: 100 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 111 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2012 at 15:48
I'm going to take this test again, print the results and shove it in the face of my mother who spent her first evening at my flat claiming I have this Asperger syndrome.
She wants me to be Aspie-rated, I will fight back and show I'm Inspie-rated.
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